Where in a school gym would he put it? Ours has no cabinets, no desks, no storage units, no closets.

 

The article said the kids were changing, I'm assuming they were in a locker room where he could have put it in a locker or other storage area not to mention rolling it up and keeping it with him or putting it in his office. It appears to me having a flag in school wasn't against any rules, so I have a hard time believing that he had to throw it in the trash. We don't know the whole story or all of the facts, but from what was reported here I can't justify the teacher's actions.

Come on. Seriously - he could find NO other place to "store" it than a garbage can?! It just doesn't pass the smell test for me.

 

Think of the last HS school gym that you were in. Where is there in there to store something? Our PE teacher has no classroom. They have health classes in a room when a teacher is no their planning time. They keep nothing in the gym but have an office about a football field away from the gym.

 

Plus, why would the teacher even store something if he was not going to return it?

 

I take things from kids all the time and they go straight to the trashcan. I don't take something from a kid and then store it, so I can throw it away later in the day.

The article said the kids were changing, I'm assuming they were in a locker room where he could have put it in a locker or other storage area not to mention rolling it up and keeping it with him or putting it in his office. It appears to me having a flag in school wasn't against any rules, so I have a hard time believing that he had to throw it in the trash. We don't know the whole story or all of the facts, but from what was reported here I can't justify the teacher's actions.

 

Is there enough reported to say the teacher was wrong?

 

I took a bandana once with a pot leaf on it. I threw it away in the trash. Was I wrong?

U.S.A. like it or leave it! English only please.

Is there enough reported to say the teacher was wrong?

 

I don't see any reason for him to have thrown it away. From my school experience, if a student brought something in to school that was either not allowed or became a distraction to the point that a teacher had to confiscate it, they never threw it away. The item would usually be confiscated, the student disciplined, and then student or their parent would be able to pick it up later with the explicit understanding that the item was not to return.

 

Other than that, his story doesn't check out with me. He said he threw it away because he had nowhere else to keep it, not because that is the standard procedure for having that item.

 

I took a bandana once with a pot leaf on it. I threw it away in the trash. Was I wrong?

 

It's certainly a different situation. I have no doubt that having a bandana with marijuana depicted on it is against school rules and the student knew it when it was brought it in. Similarly, would you have thrown away his shirt if it had marijuana on it? Shoes, cell phone?

U.S.A. like it or leave it! English only please.

 

That's a very disrespectful and just flat out mean statement. Why would you say something like this? I hope you have never once wanted to go ANYWHERE outside this country because with that statement it seems as if you are undeserving anyway.

I don't see any reason for him to have thrown it away. From my school experience, if a student brought something in to school that was either not allowed or became a distraction to the point that a teacher had to confiscate it, they never threw it away. The item would usually be confiscated, the student disciplined, and then student or their parent would be able to pick it up later with the explicit understanding that the item was not to return.

 

Other than that, his story doesn't check out with me. He said he threw it away because he had nowhere else to keep it, not because that is the standard procedure for having that item.

 

 

 

It's certainly a different situation. I have no doubt that having a bandana with marijuana depicted on it is against school rules and the student knew it when it was brought it in. Similarly, would you have thrown away his shirt if it had marijuana on it? Shoes, cell phone?

 

Shirt, yes. Did it. Tshirt, had the student took it off. Kept it till end of class and threw it away in dumpster. If I had thrown it away in the room, he would have got it out of the trash can.

 

Shoes and cell phone, no. More expensive. Would have taken it to the principal, called parent and had them pick it up at their inconvenience. Would NOT have returned it to the student.

 

Admittingly, I am OLD SCHOOL. I would paddle in a heartbeat.

I do not think he should have thrown it away. If it was a first time for this thing then the teacher should have taken it, then after class explained to the student how this can cause problems with other students, and no disrespect to his culture but it would be better if he didn't bring the flag back. OR he could have said if that student feels that strong about expressing and showing his culture then maybe the class could have a heritage day in which the kids talk about their different heritages (that's what we did when I was younger, and once we were all given different heritages to learn and present so we could see how others lived).

Think of the last HS school gym that you were in. Where is there in there to store something? Our PE teacher has no classroom. They have health classes in a room when a teacher is no their planning time. They keep nothing in the gym but have an office about a football field away from the gym.

 

Plus, why would the teacher even store something if he was not going to return it?

 

I take things from kids all the time and they go straight to the trashcan. I don't take something from a kid and then store it, so I can throw it away later in the day.

 

If nothing else, he could have simply set it on the floor in the corner. Or on top of a locker. Throwing it in a garbage can - whether he was "storing" it or not:rolleyes: - has an obvious implication to it.

If nothing else, he could have simply set it on the floor in the corner. Or on top of a locker. Throwing it in a garbage can - whether he was "storing" it or not:rolleyes: - has an obvious implication to it.

 

I absolutely agree that he should not have thrown it away where the kid could see it.

 

I have thrown things away by pulling things out of the top of the trash and sticking it down in the bottom and then putting the things back on top.

 

It was disrespectful, irregardless of his intentions, to throw it in a trash can where the kid could see it.

I do not think he should have thrown it away. If it was a first time for this thing then the teacher should have taken it, then after class explained to the student how this can cause problems with other students, and no disrespect to his culture but it would be better if he didn't bring the flag back. OR he could have said if that student feels that strong about expressing and showing his culture then maybe the class could have a heritage day in which the kids talk about their different heritages (that's what we did when I was younger, and once we were all given different heritages to learn and present so we could see how others lived).

 

I will assume in the bolded that you wanted the teacher to give the flag back at the end of class or the end of the day.

 

You think that teens listen to that speech, roll their eyes, say whatever with a few cuss words mixed in as they turn their back to walk away and 30 feet down the hallway do what they wanted to do with it in the first place.

 

NO WAY, that I would return that flag and expect him to put it in his pocket and keep it quiet. I would be a moron of a teacher to assume that would happen.

I haven't read through this thread but the teacher was 100% out of line when he threw it in the trash can. If he wanted to contact the administration and go from there to deal with the issue then fine but this teacher is obviously a little cuckoo. He had no where else to put it besides the trash can???? Give me a break.

I haven't read through this thread but the teacher was 100% out of line when he threw it in the trash can. If he wanted to contact the administration and go from there to deal with the issue then fine but this teacher is obviously a little cuckoo. He had no where else to put it besides the trash can???? Give me a break.

 

Again, I ask, where in a HS gym have you seen places to store things?

 

Also, per the increase of inappropriate actions among HS teachers/students, a lot of PE teachers offices have been moved OUT of the locker rooms.

 

I could easily envision the kid holding the flag up, showing it off, running around with it as he heads down the locker room, teacher follows him to the locker room where they will be unsupervised as they change and some of the kids who may be upset about the flag takes it under their own charge to take the flag, so the does by taking the flag. And as he walks out thinking, idiot, he spies the trash can, knows he ain't returning it and with NO thought, tosses it in the trash can.

 

None of you can't imagine that being the scenario.

Shirt, yes. Did it. Tshirt, had the student took it off. Kept it till end of class and threw it away in dumpster. If I had thrown it away in the room, he would have got it out of the trash can.

 

Shoes and cell phone, no. More expensive. Would have taken it to the principal, called parent and had them pick it up at their inconvenience. Would NOT have returned it to the student.

 

Admittingly, I am OLD SCHOOL. I would paddle in a heartbeat.

 

Let me ask this then: if some sort of controversy arose out of something you threw away, would your statement to the media be "I had no where else to put it"?

 

I think it would be something more along the lines of this:

 

I will assume in the bolded that you wanted the teacher to give the flag back at the end of class or the end of the day.

 

You think that teens listen to that speech, roll their eyes, say whatever with a few cuss words mixed in as they turn their back to walk away and 30 feet down the hallway do what they wanted to do with it in the first place.

 

NO WAY, that I would return that flag and expect him to put it in his pocket and keep it quiet. I would be a moron of a teacher to assume that would happen.

 

Which is why I think this teacher acted inappropriately.

I can only speak from experience but I've never been in a high school gym in my life where there wasn't an office connected to the gym floor. The teacher couldn't make him put it away or take it to the administrative offices? He had no right to put it in the trash can.