Birdsfan Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 As we, in Kentucky, have suddenly found ourselves granted unexpected relevance this election year, who will carry the state for the Democrats? The pundits have pretty much awarded the state to Clinton. Could Obama's strength in urban areas give him enough lift to overcome her appeal in other parts of the state? Perhaps most importantly, come November, will Kentucky land in the McCain column or the (candidate-to-be-named-later) column?
AcesFull Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 As we, in Kentucky, have suddenly found ourselves granted unexpected relevance this election year, who will carry the state for the Democrats? The pundits have pretty much awarded the state to Clinton. Could Obama's strength in urban areas give him enough lift to overcome her appeal in other parts of the state? Perhaps most importantly, come November, will Kentucky land in the McCain column or the (candidate-to-be-named-later) column? Hillary will trounce Obama in Kentucky. McCain will trounce the infanticide-enabler Obama in November.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I am hoping my fellow Kentuckians have the good political sense to vote McCain in November. As a registered Democrat, I will vote Obama in May.
lynks66 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I am hoping my fellow Kentuckians have the good political sense to vote McCain in November. As a registered Democrat, I will vote Obama in May. May I ask why you are voting for him this spring? Since I am sure you have no intention of voting for him in Nov.
MoreheadEagle Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Clinton will probably win in May but by then the primary's might be finished. Obama just has to get enough delegates in each state to keep his lead. In Nov. Clinton could win Ky. b/c of old loyalties. Obama won't win a southern state in Nov. except those with high African-American populations. Florida, Georgia, and Virginia are the only southern states I could see a Dem winning, but Clinton might take Ky.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 May I ask why you are voting for him this spring? Since I am sure you have no intention of voting for him in Nov. I am a registered Democrat and usually vote in all elections. Out of the two, I like Obama better. Issuewise they are the same to me and I don't like the Clintons in the least. Won't vote for either in Nov because they support killing unborn babies and I cannot support a candidate who thinks it is acceptable that in a year and one month this country will have killed more unborn babies than soldiers who have died in Iraq. If he was pro-life, I would probably vote for him in Nov. He ain't, I won't.
lynks66 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I am a registered Democrat and usually vote in all elections. Out of the two, I like Obama better. Issuewise they are the same to me and I don't like the Clintons in the least. Won't vote for either in Nov because they support killing unborn babies and I cannot support a candidate who thinks it is acceptable that in a year and one month this country will have killed more unborn babies than soldiers who have died in Iraq. If he was pro-life, I would probably vote for him in Nov. He ain't, I won't. I see, I had just heard about some people voting for the person that they thought McCain could more easily defeat in Nov. (even if they liked the other candidate more) I didn't think that was your motivation, but I thought I would check.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I see, I had just heard about some people voting for the person that they thought McCain could more easily defeat in Nov. (even if they liked the other candidate more) I didn't think that was your motivation, but I thought I would check. I think Hillary would be the easier of the two to defeat as she comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of motivation for conservatives to vote. How this Wright issue plays out may change my view of that. Before it, I think Obama would appeal to many moderates that McCain could draw. I am not sure Hillary appeals to those as well as Obama does.
HHSDad Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Clinton will probably win in May but by then the primary's might be finished. Obama just has to get enough delegates in each state to keep his lead. In Nov. Clinton could win Ky. b/c of old loyalties. Obama won't win a southern state in Nov. except those with high African-American populations. Florida, Georgia, and Virginia are the only southern states I could see a Dem winning, but Clinton might take Ky. The Democrat candidate won't be decided until August at the DNC convention. Neither can get enough delegates to win without the superdelegates. The superdelegates don't vote until the convention. Don't look for either Obama or Clinton to step down before that.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 The Democrat candidate won't be decided until August at the DNC convention. Neither can get enough delegates to win without the superdelegates. The superdelegates don't vote until the convention. Don't look for either Obama or Clinton to step down before that. There has been talk on the talking head shows about the Dems having a Superdelegate conference in late June to settle this before then.
HHSDad Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 There has been talk on the talking head shows about the Dems having a Superdelegate conference in late June to settle this before then. I'm pretty confident that the Clinton's won't let that happen unless it benefits Hillary.
MoreheadEagle Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 It wouldn't surprise me if we see more supers pledging before the convention.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I'm pretty confident that the Clinton's won't let that happen unless it benefits Hillary. If Pelosi, Gore, Carter and Dean come out promoting it, the Clinton's won't have much of a choice without putting the proverbial nail in the coffin for the Dem candidate in Nov.
HHSDad Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 If Pelosi, Gore, Carter and Dean come out promoting it, the Clinton's won't have much of a choice without putting the proverbial nail in the coffin for the Dem candidate in Nov. Three dead horses and a hag versus the keeper of the DNC? Those four don't have a chance.
ladiesbballcoach Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Three dead horses and a hag versus the keeper of the DNC? Those four don't have a chance. On actually getting it done with the powerbrokers maybe. But they are going to be all over the networks talking about it and how it needs to be done. And the growing perception among the voters will be the Clintons and her supporters are the only ones standing in the way. So, Hillary will have to understand she is going to take some serious negative heat to not agree to the superdelegate convention. And then when the Dems candidate actually gets selected, you are going to end up with a highly divided Dem party.
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