March 4, 200818 yr I'll just throw out a few verses/passages that I think are related to this... James 1:5-7 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God,who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. Butlet him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. James 4:3 You ask and do not receive, because you askwrongly, to spend it on your passions. Matthew 18:19,20 Again I say to you, if two of youagree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them." Matthew 21:21,22 And Jesus answered them, "Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and thrown into the sea,' it will happen. And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith." John 14:13,14 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. John 15:16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. John 16:23,24 In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full. 1 John 3:22 ...whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him. 1 John 5:14,15 And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us. And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked of him. I think those verses and passages offer some further insight into the initial text. There were four things that immediately stood out to me: 1) asking in the name of Jesus, 2) asking in faith with no doubt, 3) asking according to God's will, and 4) obedience is key to receiving what we ask.
March 5, 200818 yr Author I'll just throw out a few verses/passages that I think are related to this... James 1:5-7 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God,who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. Butlet him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. James 4:3 You ask and do not receive, because you askwrongly, to spend it on your passions. Matthew 18:19,20 Again I say to you, if two of youagree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them." Matthew 21:21,22 And Jesus answered them, "Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and thrown into the sea,' it will happen. And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith." John 14:13,14 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. John 15:16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. John 16:23,24 In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full. 1 John 3:22 ...whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him. 1 John 5:14,15 And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us. And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked of him. I think those verses and passages offer some further insight into the initial text. There were four things that immediately stood out to me: 1) asking in the name of Jesus, 2) asking in faith with no doubt, 3) asking according to God's will, and 4) obedience is key to receiving what we ask. WOW:thumb: There is alot of stuff here. Here is the million dollar question... After we ask for wisdom, which will be granted, how do we then go about decerning God's will, when most of the time, we don't (well I don't) see His will(plan) until it has already past? We know God does here our prayers but to expect it in faith is hard concept for me... where I fear God ( I don't want to provoke Him) and love Him (because of the sacrifice that He made for me), to expect it, I don't know if this is the right word, but more like hope for. What do you all think:confused:
March 5, 200818 yr WOW:thumb: There is alot of stuff here. Here is the million dollar question... After we ask for wisdom, which will be granted, how do we then go about decerning God's will, when most of the time, we don't (well I don't) see His will(plan) until it has already past? We know God does here our prayers but to expect it in faith is hard concept for me... where I fear God ( I don't want to provoke Him) and love Him (because of the sacrifice that He made for me), to expect it, I don't know if this is the right word, but more like hope for. What do you all think:confused: Those things are not easy for me either...I think your earlier post about ask, seek and expect has a lot of truth in it. I think that falls in line with the not doubting concept...if we ask and doubt, then we obviously aren't expecting to get what we asked for. However, it's not that simple...we also have to ask according to God's will. And again, I think that's something we should pray for...to be able to discern His will. Obviously, if we know His will, we can then know what to ask for next... Doing this has been very difficult for me. To be honest, I think most of the time that I ask for things without truly and earnestly seeking to know God's will, and then when I do ask, I'm not 100% certain I'm going to get it. Also, I fall short in the obedience category as well...but, I do ask in the name of Jesus. However, I'm missing the mark on 3 of the 4 points I posted...it's a wonder I ever get a prayer answered. Seriously, though, it's not easy...at least for me.
March 5, 200818 yr I'm taught that Jesus wants to hear our prayers and wants to bless them. You can never ask for enough blessings. Like a daily meal, when you simply ask the blessing for your food. I've cried out to him for my behalf where it was a short cry, and he heard me and answered. I've also cried out for others and again he responded.
March 5, 200818 yr Author What is the context of 1 John 3:22... I am curious and do not have my Bible on me.
March 5, 200818 yr Author I think that if we take a look at each verse within its context we might find a hidden truth... maybe... if not it is just neat to discuss with good friends.
March 5, 200818 yr "if we obey his commands, do what pleases him, we will recieve from him anything we ask."
March 6, 200818 yr Author Ok, next question the author is the first cousin of Jesus, but why did he write the book? What was the overall context of his message, again thanks in advance!
March 6, 200818 yr For future topics leading to Good Friday and Easter, you could discuss the 7 things Jesus said from the cross.
March 6, 200818 yr Ok, next question the author is the first cousin of Jesus, but why did he write the book? What was the overall context of his message, again thanks in advance! ???????? :confused: What book are you referring to?
March 6, 200818 yr ???????? :confused: What book are you referring to? I am assuming John. http://www.keyway.ca/htm2004/20041022.htm
March 6, 200818 yr I am assuming John. http://www.keyway.ca/htm2004/20041022.htm Wow. That's an interesting read. I still don't get it or see it though. This guy's cross referencing has my head spinning. "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene." (John 19:25 KJV) "There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome" (Mark 15:40 KJV) The inference from this guy is that Salome mentioned in Mark must match up with Jesus' mother's sister because she isn't listed by name in John. Then he brings in Matthew's account "Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children." (Matthew 27:56 KJV) And draws the conclusion that this must be aforementioned Salome. That's an interesting thought but it assumes a lot. It assumes the same number from one Gospel automatically corresponds to another. That's not always the case and is a big assumption. For example look at the resurrection stories. Matthew says that Mary Magdalene and "the other Mary" came to the tomb. (2) Mark says it was Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome. (3) Luke says it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the Mother of James, and "other women" (?) John only mentions Mary Magdalene. (1) Now if we start cross referencing to find the un-named people we might very well be in trouble. Who are the other women and why aren't they all listed the same in each gospel? It's superflous and if God wanted us to know exactly or thought it meant something to the story he would have spelled it out a little clearer I think. :thumb:
March 6, 200818 yr Here is another one. In the four gospels there are a total of four women listed as being at the foot of the cross: Mary – mother of Jesus Mary Magdalene – listed in all four gospels. Mary (the wife of Clopas), the mother of James (the younger), Joseph (Joses), and Salome. Joanne, the sister of Jesus's mother (Jesus's aunt) who was the mother of James and John, the sons' of Zebedee. Matthew 27:56 Among them were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee. Mark 15:40 There were also women looking on from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of the younger James and of Joses, and Salome. Mark 16:1 When the sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary, the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go and anoint him. Luke 24:10 The women were Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary the mother of James; the others who accompanied them also told this to the apostles, John 19:25 Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. From the above it is ascertained that James and John were the first cousins of Jesus. It is because of this relationship that James and John believed that they had the right to seek privileged positions in the kingdom of Heaven. http://www.trosch.org/the/brothers.html
March 6, 200818 yr Here is another one. In the four gospels there are a total of four women listed as being at the foot of the cross: Mary – mother of Jesus Mary Magdalene – listed in all four gospels. Mary (the wife of Clopas), the mother of James (the younger), Joseph (Joses), and Salome. Joanne, the sister of Jesus's mother (Jesus's aunt) who was the mother of James and John, the sons' of Zebedee. Matthew 27:56 Among them were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee. Mark 15:40 There were also women looking on from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of the younger James and of Joses, and Salome. Mark 16:1 When the sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary, the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go and anoint him. Luke 24:10 The women were Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary the mother of James; the others who accompanied them also told this to the apostles, John 19:25 Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. From the above it is ascertained that James and John were the first cousins of Jesus. It is because of this relationship that James and John believed that they had the right to seek privileged positions in the kingdom of Heaven. http://www.trosch.org/the/brothers.html My same critique is as the other. It's an awful lot of assumption that this woman here must be the same as that woman in that account. I'm not saying it's true or not, just a lot of assumption that is hard to verify.
March 6, 200818 yr Where was the disciples? Peter, what was he doing? These guys never had a clue. It took Jesus to rise from the grave for them to fully understand.
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