February 7, 200818 yr ...nor does it prolong your coaching life. ......nor does losing because you recruited in-state players.
February 7, 200818 yr I don't buy into this entirely either. While the athleticism may abound in GA and FL, once the player has been passed over by every school in America before WKU (B/c everyone recruits those states) what makes them better than Kentucky kids that may have flown under the radar? Simple math and logic. Let's say there are 50 D1 players in KY and 500 in FLA. The top 10 are taken by the "major" in state schools. 20-30 gone from KY, approx. 50-60 from Florida. If half of the remaining players leave and go to out of state schools that leaves 10 left in KY and 220 left in FLA. Thus, your chances of landing one of said "leftover" recruits are much higher in FLA. Not to mention things like overall talent gap, quality of football in the state, etc. Simply put, there are better leftovers in states like FLA and TX than in KY. It is how schools like Texas A&M, USF, UCF, etc. have managed to field quality football teams despite playing 4th or lower fiddle in their own state.
February 7, 200818 yr I have a question. Then why does every other school have more players from their state then the Kentucky schools? I am not just talking about big football states. I know Hawaii is Hawaii, but they have more Hawaii students then from other states, and they did win a lot of games. This is true for Oklahoma, all the Florida schools, all the Texas schools, which are supposed to have a big recruiting field. But, it is true all the other states as well. Oregon, Washington, BYU, Missouri, the list goes on. I just have trouble believing that there are not Kentucky payers that are good enough to play at WKU, EKU, or any of the other schools in Kentucky. I do not think the team should be made up of all Kentucky players, but I do think that some of the Kentucky players could play and contribute there.
February 7, 200818 yr ...nor does it prolong your coaching life. ......nor does losing because you recruited in-state players. You say toe-MAY-toe, I say toe-MAH-toe.
February 7, 200818 yr I just have trouble believing that there are not Kentucky payers that are good enough to play at WKU, EKU, or any of the other schools in Kentucky. I do not think the team should be made up of all Kentucky players, but I do think that some of the Kentucky players could play and contribute there. As someone pointed out, WKU recruited a kid from EKY. Who says they didn't recruit any? Maybe they lost out to other schools.
February 7, 200818 yr I have a question. Then why does every other school have more players from their state then the Kentucky schools? I am not just talking about big football states. I know Hawaii is Hawaii, but they have more Hawaii students then from other states, and they did win a lot of games. This is true for Oklahoma, all the Florida schools, all the Texas schools, which are supposed to have a big recruiting field. But, it is true all the other states as well. Oregon, Washington, BYU, Missouri, the list goes on. I just have trouble believing that there are not Kentucky payers that are good enough to play at WKU, EKU, or any of the other schools in Kentucky. I do not think the team should be made up of all Kentucky players, but I do think that some of the Kentucky players could play and contribute there. Florida and Texas are obvious. The rest are established programs that are option 1 or 2(sometimes both) in their home states. In KY, WKU and EKU may not even be the 3rd or 4th option for instaters. I'd also think that guys that are in the "good enough" to play for WKU or EKU kind of look down on those schools due to their lack of prestige within the state. Therefore they look to go elsewhere outside the state before EKU or WKU. The first one that comes to mind is the kid that set all the national passing records and then went to Troy.
February 7, 200818 yr Florida and Texas are obvious. The rest are established programs that are option 1 or 2(sometimes both) in their home states. In KY, WKU and EKU may not even be the 3rd or 4th option for instaters. I'd also think that guys that are in the "good enough" to play for WKU or EKU kind of look down on those schools due to their lack of prestige within the state. Therefore they look to go elsewhere outside the state before EKU or WKU. The first one that comes to mind is the kid that set all the national passing records and then went to Troy. I can agree that they are 3 or 4. I am just saying that there are some athletes in Kentucky that are good enough to play D1 ball, and quite a few. Just like other states. Food for thought: Missouri in state players 67 out of state players 39 Michigan State in state players 42 out of state players 59 NC State in state players 51 out of state players 38 Miss St in state players 49 out of state players 55 Oregon St in state players 35 out of state players 76 Arizona St in state players 26 out of state players 68 UK in state players 41 out of state players 67 UL in state players 32 out of state players 68 EKU in state players 20 out of state players 62 WKU in state players 47 out of state player 56
February 8, 200818 yr I can agree that they are 3 or 4. I am just saying that there are some athletes in Kentucky that are good enough to play D1 ball, and quite a few. Just like other states. Food for thought: Missouri in state players 67 out of state players 39 Michigan State in state players 42 out of state players 59 NC State in state players 51 out of state players 38 Miss St in state players 49 out of state players 55 Oregon St in state players 35 out of state players 76 Arizona St in state players 26 out of state players 68 UK in state players 41 out of state players 67 UL in state players 32 out of state players 68 EKU in state players 20 out of state players 62 WKU in state players 47 out of state player 56 Great job on the research! :thumb: I agree, there are quite a few young men who can play D1 ball in KY(just not as many as TX, FLA, etc.). My contention is, they already do play D1 ball!!! I subscribe to the Occam's Razor view, that if there were D1 talent available to WKU and EKU in state, they would recruit and retain said talent. What's more likely, that they skipped over a bunch of really talented guys less than an hour from their campuses.....or that the talent simply wasn't there?? The guys that are good enough to play D1 ball, usually end up playing D1 ball somewhere. Yes, guys are skipped over because they are too small, short, fat, etc, but generally very little talent is missed. So I say if WKU signed 0 guys from KY, it was because there was a particularly weak class of D1 athletes OR they were all gobbled up by UK/UL/ or out of state schools.
February 8, 200818 yr Valid points UTL. I think if a player is recruited by WKU and say South Carolina, there is a good chance that player will go to SC. I agree with you about Kentucky not having as much D1 players as some other states. But, my argument is, when people say there is not enough D1 talent to go around for UK, UL, WKU, and EKU. there is a lot of D1 players in the state, some go the aforementioned schools, and some go to other D1 schools. But, Kentucky has the D1 players.
February 9, 200818 yr I doubt that the lack of KY boys in the class means that they didn't recruit anybody in state. I'm sure they would have loved to have local stars Ryan Wallace and D.L. Moore, but WKU isn't going to beat out the Big 12 or SEC for anybody at this point.
February 9, 200818 yr I'm know they recruited KY players, although apparently they didn't find what they were looking for in the positions they recruited. Quite a bit of interest in a player at our school over the summer, then they stopped talking as the season started. Just stopped. I understand it is about specs on a player, it's also about filling the voids that they see coming up. Potential injuries, etc need to be factored in, so I could see them needing to go out of state to get some of the players they needed this year. I would think they could find somebody to fit somewhere. I think Fans want to cheer for the local boys (reference Richie Farmer). With proven success at the D1 level they will find it easier to pick up the kids Kentucky kids.
February 9, 200818 yr Valid points UTL. I think if a player is recruited by WKU and say South Carolina, there is a good chance that player will go to SC. I agree with you about Kentucky not having as much D1 players as some other states. But, my argument is, when people say there is not enough D1 talent to go around for UK, UL, WKU, and EKU. there is a lot of D1 players in the state, some go the aforementioned schools, and some go to other D1 schools. But, Kentucky has the D1 players. No doubt. KY certainly has the D1 players, but the "lower level" (non BCS conference talent) usually elects to go out of state rather than EKU or WKU. I guess the question would be why?
February 9, 200818 yr I would be interested to see if any other college in America did not receive a single player from the state in which the college was located.
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