I am saying there is no difference between a person who has to choose between sitting at their graduation and listening to an unwanted prayer, and sitting at a desirable restaurant and inhaling unwanted smoke.

 

Does the first get physically sick?

 

There is a MAJOR DIFFERENCE.

You shouldn't. It doesn't. I don't agree with those mandatory regulations.

 

So, the government has no responsibility in trying to setup standards that PREVENT a health crisis? WOW!?!?!?!

So, the government has no responsibility in trying to setup standards that PREVENT a health crisis? WOW!?!?!?!

I think there is a HUGE difference between a hepatitis or ecoli breakout because of unsanitary condidtions and second-hand smoke, which recent studies have shown to have been far less dangerous to most people than previously believed.

I think there is a HUGE difference between a hepatitis or ecoli breakout because of unsanitary condidtions and second-hand smoke, which recent studies have shown to have been far less dangerous to most people than previously believed.

 

Next time my daughter can't breath because of her smoke allergies, I will tell her that the latest studies show that she is not really sick.

Next time my daughter can't breath because of her smoke allergies, I will tell her that the latest studies show that she is not really sick.

So people with medical conditions have no responsibilty for protecting their health? Or is the rest of the world suppossed to roll over and accomodate they're every need?

So people with medical conditions have no responsibilty for protecting their health? Or is the rest of the world suppossed to roll over and accomodate they're every need?

 

So, you are saying my 13 year old daughter should wear a mask out in public so that someone else can smoke?

 

I have no problem with them smoking (except for the health insurance increased cost) when it does not affect others. But when they are in public and their choice NOW affects others, that is different.

I think there is a HUGE difference between a hepatitis or ecoli breakout because of unsanitary condidtions and second-hand smoke, which recent studies have shown to have been far less dangerous to most people than previously believed.

 

The “California Study” was funded by Johnson & Johnson for 30 years. It was about the effects of 2nd hand smoke on adults and children. It was abandoned in 1997 because they were not getting the results that they hoped. The report “implied” that some children’s immune system was enhanced, not damaged by 2nd hand smoke. The report also “implied” that air pollution was 10 times more of a risk than 2nd hand smoke. No conclusions were ever made because the study was abandoned.

Let's get one thing straight. I don't like being around cigarette smoke, especially when eating. But life is a choice.

Let's get one thing straight. I don't like being around cigarette smoke, especially when eating. But life is a choice.

 

Not if people are putting their choices onto you.

Can anyone identify a single place that they HAVE to go to that permits smoking?

 

I could imagine a pregnant mother hard up for employment having to take whatever she can get, which could be in a smoking establishment. That would be unfortunate.

 

Anyway, I’m ambivalent towards these smoking bans. I’ve enjoyed not having to shower and change clothes after going to a smoking establishment. On top of this, going outside to smoke isn’t a big deal, so I don’t have really any sympathy for smokers. Philosophically, I don’t like the government telling me what to do, but I find some justification. Smoking isn’t an act that affects only the smoker, but everyone around them with adverse health risks and that awful smell. These laws are an infringement of liberty on the smoker as much as they are a protection of liberty for the non-smokers around them.

I think public farting should be banned.

Does the first get physically sick?

 

There is a MAJOR DIFFERENCE.

 

You are looking backward from the result. I am looking forward at the choice. There is no difference. Both most choose between doing something they want to do that is coupled with an unwanted event.

 

You are simply weighing what you perceive to be gravity of the event, and you say getting sick is worse than being captive. I don't agree with you.

It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.:jump:

 

I know. We are all friends here.

So, the government has no responsibility in trying to setup standards that PREVENT a health crisis? WOW!?!?!?!

 

Bird flu is a health crisis. The common cold from lack of hand-washing is not. Its a question of where to set the bar, LBBC.

Bird flu is a health crisis. The common cold from lack of hand-washing is not. Its a question of where to set the bar, LBBC.

Health board standards are put in place to protect the public from risks that they are unaware of. That's not the case with smoking.