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At my Grandma's church (where I went for years) started a revival, (didn't call it that at first) Okay let me back up and give you the whole story.

 

A preacher came down for a special one day event because he was passing through. He started last Sunday, and when all the singing, testifying, and preaching was over, 5 people were saved and 6 people were filled with the Holy Ghost. So far what was supposed to be a one time thing has turned into a full-blown-revival. One of my personal favorite stories (other than the lost souls coming to know Christ) was a woman that had prayed for 41 years to get the Holy Ghost finally got it 2 nights ago.

 

The reason I am telling all of you this is because I want you to pray for the efforts of Brush Creek Holiness Church, the pastor, and the lives that will be and have been touched by God.

 

Oh BTW, tonight will be the 11th night, and the preacher said he won't leave until the results stop:lol: Lets hope he doesn't leave until Jesus calls us away:dancingpa

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Oh BTW, tonight will be the 11th night, and the preacher said he won't leave until the results stop:lol: Lets hope he doesn't leave until Jesus calls us away:dancingpa

 

I haven't been to one of those in years but I do remember them well. Good luck to you all.

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Question..

 

What's the difference between saved and filled with the Holy Ghost?

 

Thanks in advance for explaining!:thumb:

 

I'm going to wait and let rcr explain it rather than chance getting it wrong. But if it is what I think it is, it's unique to the Pentacostals and quite interesting.

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*****Much of Pentecostalism holds that the 'Baptism with the Holy Spirit' is distinct from the salvific born again experience, as a usually distinct experience in which the Spirit's power is received by the Christian in a new way, with the result that the Christian can now be more readily used to do signs, miracles, and wonders for the sake of evangelism or for ministry within the church. *****

 

I found that on Wikipedia, and it is pretty close to being right. The belief is derived from the day of Penecost how "fire from heaven" was brought down and all of that. Basically, it gives you the blessing of speaking in tongues, healing, etc... (Grant it not everyone can heal people, and perform "miracles" like Wikipedia says.)

 

VERY IMPORTANT: Also, the church I have been going to hasn't had anyone "healed" in 31 years!!! Please don't confuse Holiness/Penecostals with "snake-handlers and Benny Hinn"

 

When I get online again, I will try to explain it better, or someone else on here can explain and I will verify, if you can tell I am not very eloquent :) .

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or someone else on here can explain and I will verify, if you can tell I am not very eloquent :) .

 

 

I'll try, but not being Pentecostal, I may not be completely accurate.

 

 

Acts 2:1-11

When the day of Pentecost had come, the disciples were all together in one place. And suddenly from heaven there came a sound like the rush of a violent wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. Divided tongues, as of fire, appeared among them, and a tongue rested on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages, as the Spirit gave them ability.

Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven living in Jerusalem. And at this sound the crowd gathered and was bewildered, because each one heard them speaking in the native language of each. Amazed and astonished, they asked, "Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each of us, in our own native language? Parthians, Medes, Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs-- in our own languages we hear them speaking about God's deeds of power."

 

Members of the Pentecostal Church put a great value on the occurrances of this day, thus the name for their denomination. People considerate it a gift to be filled with the presence of the Holy Spirit and will sometimes demonstrate it by "speaking in tongues". Others sometimes will be the given the gift to interpret what is being said by the first who often does not understand what they are saying or even be aware that they are speaking a different language. My understanding is that it is not considered necessary to prove one's salvation, but is very desirable.

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It's also easy to see how outsiders can be skeptical of this belief/practice because speaking and interpreting tongues is generally the only "gift" that is seen. Of the churches like that that I'm aware of, no one ever heals anyone or performs miracles, but they do speak in tongues. However, speaking in tongues would be the easiest gift to fake and I suspect a lot of people do it. It generally just sounds like jibberish...also, it's easy to see how members of the church would want to join the crowd and fake speaking in tongues so people would think they had been filled with the Spirit.

 

I'm not saying that it never happens. I think it does. However, I just feel like that if people were truly being filled by the Spirit, there would be a variety of gifts on display, not just tongues, so I can't help but think that some people who speak in tongues are faking it.

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Speaking in tongues is not limited to Pentecostals but does seem to occur with much more frequency. I have heard Baptist preachers refer to it as divisive because those who do sometimes tend to question the standing of those who don't. Personally, it's not something I feel the need to question. Like many other aspects of religion, I think it's something between the practicioner and God. However, the whole Pentecostal religion interests me simply because they make even Baptists look like a liberal sect. It's a tough lifestyle to follow but it seems to me that if they err, it's that they do more than is required. I guess that's better than not doing enough.

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There is something I have never quite understood about the speaking in tongues of modern day. If it goes back to the Day of Pentecost, then why is it so drastically different than what they did then?

 

The account of the Day of Pentecost, when Peter preached the first gospel sermon, tells of all the apostles speaking and everyone understood every word they were speaking. There were present peoples of different nations, all who spoke and understood their own native language, and the Apostles were all Galileans.

 

They weren't speaking jibberish, their words were not unintelligible babbling. No, on the contrary, EVERYONE understood EVERY word, regardless of what nationality they were. That would be like me addressing the UN, and when I open my mouth and speak my natural native English, everyone heard me in their native language. Spanish speaking people would hear Spanish, French would hear French, and so on.

 

The Holy Spirit spoke through these men to get their message out to the multitudes, it was miraculous. It was necessary because of the great language barrier between the Apostles and all the people present.

 

And I don't see how that example translates into the speaking in tongues we see today. Please know that I'm not being snide, I'd just like to be able to understand it better.

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There is something I have never quite understood about the speaking in tongues of modern day. If it goes back to the Day of Pentecost, then why is it so drastically different than what they did then?

 

The account of the Day of Pentecost, when Peter preached the first gospel sermon, tells of all the apostles speaking and everyone understood every word they were speaking. There were present peoples of different nations, all who spoke and understood their own native language, and the Apostles were all Galileans.

 

They weren't speaking jibberish, their words were not unintelligible babbling. No, on the contrary, EVERYONE understood EVERY word, regardless of what nationality they were. That would be like me addressing the UN, and when I open my mouth and speak my natural native English, everyone heard me in their native language. Spanish speaking people would hear Spanish, French would hear French, and so on.

 

The Holy Spirit spoke through these men to get their message out to the multitudes, it was miraculous. It was necessary because of the great language barrier between the Apostles and all the people present.

 

And I don't see how that example translates into the speaking in tongues we see today. Please know that I'm not being snide, I'd just like to be able to understand it better.

 

That's another reason for my own skepticism.

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