Runner on 3rd ,full count on batter ,2 outs .The runner on 3 rd takes off while pitcher in a slow full wind-up .the runner slides across the plate then the ball crosses over him and is called strike 3

Does the run count ?

Never seen it or heard of it, but I presume....Safe

Run does not count. The play started with the windup and is based on the completion of that delivery. If he doesn't deliver the pitch then it is a balk and run scores. ?????

Run does not count. The play started with the windup and is based on the completion of that delivery. If he doesn't deliver the pitch then it is a balk and run scores. ?????

 

 

You are correct. All plays made are subject to the completion of the at-bat. Just as if the ball is grounded and a defensive play made yet the runner from third scores before the "out" is made at first. No run, batter out, end of inning.

An easy way to understand this would be...the kid slides across home plate and the pitcher beans the batter..dead ball, runner returns to third.

What would happen if the pitch hit the runner while he was on the plate that otherwise would have been a strike if it didn't hit him?

If it hit him while he was in th strike zone its a strike dead ball, runner returns to 3rd. Just like if a batter is leaning across the plate and gets hit, that also is a strike, dead ball.

This happened in the All A state tourney . A semifinal game and it was ruled as the run counts .

I saw that down at the "All A", awesome play to tack on another run.

This happened in the All A state tourney . A semifinal game and it was ruled as the run counts .

 

That would appear to be the correct call. Check out 5.09h . Ball is dead. Runners advance.

If it hit him while he was in th strike zone its a strike dead ball, runner returns to 3rd. .

 

Not true. 5.09h says that any legal pitch that hits a runner trying to score is a dead ball and "runners advance." 6.05 says that if there are two strikes and two outs, the resulting strikeout would negate the run. No mention ever of runners returning.

The ball never hit the runner

The ball never hit the runner

 

 

This is correct .The ball never hit the runner

The ball never hit the runner

 

It did in Hector's scenario.

 

What would happen if the pitch hit the runner while he was on the plate that otherwise would have been a strike if it didn't hit him?

The ball never hit the runner

 

If it was a strike and did not hit the runner and there are two outs and two strikes, the call is Strike 3 , inning over, no run since the batter never reached first safely.