I saw a news show today and several times this week people saying that Europe is a dying continent, because by 2050 it will be pretty much an Islamic continent.

 

Why do people use the word dying when talking about this?

 

Does this scare anyone else?

I don't follow. Do they mean it is 'dying' because it is being overrun with Islam, Muslims, or foreigners?

When I saw the thread title, I thought it had to do with the negative population growth in Europe.

I don't follow. Do they mean it is 'dying' because it is being overrun with Islam, Muslims, or foreigners?

 

 

Yes.

 

They pretty much said in the future look for France and others to turn into Islamic republics.

 

That keeping Nukes from Iran was usless because they are going to get the technology through democracy.

 

In other words they would go to the polls, put Muslims in power and in turn all of the Muslim world would have the weapons of the countries of Europe.

Yes.

 

They pretty much said in the future look for France and others to turn into Islamic republics.

 

That keeping Nukes from Iran was usless because they are going to get the technology through democracy.

 

In other words they would go to the polls, put Muslims in power and in turn all of the Muslim world would have the weapons of the countries of Europe.

 

I don't know about all of that. France couldn't be more of a nationalist, isolationist, anti-foreigner country. They undoubtedly have an ever increasing number of Muslim immigrants, but they are repressed by hard lining nationalist. Muslims in France live in ghetto slums. In fact, a rather incompetent Jacques Chirac won the last election essentially because he was running against a racist who sounded much more like a neo-nazi than a politician. If Europe is "dying," this is why.

I think the word "graying" would be a better term. Europeans don't have any many children as their American and Arab counterparts. I would say the median age in Europe is higher than anywhere else in the world. Europe is "dying" because its citizens are progressively getting older.

How did Islam get to be so "backwards"? During the Dark Ages of Europe, the Caliphate was advancing the sciences like never before. They were leaders of learning throughout the world. Now it seems to have become a very dark, death embracing religion.

How did Islam get to be so "backwards"? During the Dark Ages of Europe, the Caliphate was advancing the sciences like never before. They were leaders of learning throughout the world. Now it seems to have become a very dark, death embracing religion.

 

 

All it takes is the right or wrong people in a position of power plus the onset of certain economic truths. Durng the era of the Ottoman Empire (pre-Lepanto) it was the richest empire in the world. Money in the right hands changes many things. Of course the Turks, not the Arabs were in charge at the time as well. Their interpretation of Islam clearly was different.

All it takes is the right or wrong people in a position of power plus the onset of certain economic truths. Durng the era of the Ottoman Empire (pre-Lepanto) it was the richest empire in the world. Money in the right hands changes many things. Of course the Turks, not the Arabs were in charge at the time as well. Their interpretation of Islam clearly was different.

:thumb: Very true, I see you're a real history buff.

:thumb: Very true, I see you're a real history buff.

 

 

I have a Degree in History and Secondary Education. I am looking at going after my Masters within the next year. Military History being my area of preference. Although I do have a love of the Classical Era as well. :thumb:

I have a Degree in History and Secondary Education. I am looking at going after my Masters within the next year. Military History being my area of preference. Although I do have a love of the Classical Era as wel. :thumb:

 

I was waiting for your reply because you know so much about history. :thumb:

 

To expand on Islam; it allows such different interpretations between so many different areas. There isn't one general consesus on interpretation of Islamic law. There is such a wide spectrum of beliefs that fall under "Islam". It's almost impossible to define what an Islamic belief is.

I have a Degree in History and Secondary Education. I am looking at going after my Masters within the next year. Military History being my area of preference. Although I do have a love of the Classical Era as wel. :thumb:

I have a really good friend that is a history major and his business is buying and selling Military Antiques. He has some beautiful things from so many different eras.

I was waiting for your reply because you know so much about history. :thumb:

 

To expand on Islam; it allows such different interpretations between so many different areas. There isn't one general consesus on interpretation of Islamic law. There is such a wide spectrum of beliefs that fall under "Islam". It's almost impossible to define what an Islamic belief is.

 

 

I will trust you on that one. I know very little of Islam, save what I read of in my books.

I have a really good friend that is a history major and his business is buying and selling Military Antiques. He has some beautiful things from so many different eras.

 

 

My dream is to have what is essntially an Armory of originals and replicas of historical weaponry. I am starting out with firearms of the 20th Century. My next purchase looks to be an M1 Garand. I already have a Mosin-Nagant. Got to build it bit by bit. :ylsuper:

My dream is to have what is essntially an Armory of originals and replicas of historical weaponry. I am starting out with firearms of the 20th Century. My next purchase looks to be an M1 Garand. I already have a Mosin-Nagant. Got to build it bit by bit. :ylsuper:

I need to hook you up with my buddy. He is a real pro, really knows what he's dealing with, what to look for and so on. Let me know if you're interested, he's been in business for years.