Sorry I do not get all the fuss.

 

Atlanta wasn't trying to score (they were already up a bunch at the end of OT) and I'd rather he be upset at the way he and the Cavs gave the game away at the end of regulation and leave the court than to start hugging and shaking hands with the Hawks. It was a tough loss at home and I understand his frustration.

 

To me it is just like half the NFL players running off the field with 20 seconds to go and no timeouts left and the other half hugging each other.

As far as who would you want to play with (not talent wise), but yes. Pippen should have gotten the shot, had I been on his team I would have understood that. Pippen didn't want to quit on his team, he wanted to win it for them.

 

That's pure PR work there, my friend.

 

2 scenarios:

 

1. Team losing by 7 - 10 or so seconds left - opponent is going to dribble out the clock while everyone shakes hands. Star players walks off the court.

 

2. PLAYOFF game. Game undecided. Last play of the game. Did I mention the game was undecided at this point? Star player tells his coach "I ain't playing because you hurt my feelings (or something like that)."

 

You're telling me that you're OK with 2 but not 1? 2 is somehow better than 1?

 

Sell it somewhere else, my man. You're the ONLY one that will go that route.

Sorry I do not get all the fuss.

 

Atlanta wasn't trying to score (they were already up a bunch at the end of OT) and I'd rather he be upset at the way he and the Cavs gave the game away at the end of regulation and leave the court than to start hugging and shaking hands with the Hawks. It was a tough loss at home and I understand his frustration.

 

To me it is just like half the NFL players running off the field with 20 seconds to go and no timeouts left and the other half hugging each other.

 

When people shake hands (or hug) it doesn't reak of a "look-at-me" type attitdue.

When people shake hands (or hug) it doesn't reak of a "look-at-me" type attitdue.

 

It wasn't "look at me" it was if anything "don't look at me I don't want to be on this court with how bad I played".

 

I'm all for sportsmanship but I'd rather he take off to the locker room disappointed in his play than smile and pose for a photo with Hawks players which is exactly what one Cav did. Actually I don't care that one player felt the need to pose for a photo. Everyone reacts to a tough loss differently.

It wasn't "look at me" it was if anything "don't look at me I don't want to be on this court with how bad I played".

 

I'm all for sportsmanship but I'd rather he take off to the locker room disappointed in his play than smile and pose for a photo with Hawks players which is exactly what one Cav did. Actually I don't care that one player felt the need to pose for a photo. Everyone reacts to a tough loss differently.

 

Then walk off after the game. It's just unprofessional, IMO.

That's pure PR work there, my friend.

 

2 scenarios:

 

1. Team losing by 7 - 10 or so seconds left - opponent is going to dribble out the clock while everyone shakes hands. Star players walks off the court.

 

2. PLAYOFF game. Game undecided. Last play of the game. Did I mention the game was undecided at this point? Star player tells his coach "I ain't playing because you hurt my feelings (or something like that)."

 

You're telling me that you're OK with 2 but not 1? 2 is somehow better than 1?

 

Sell it somewhere else, my man. You're the ONLY one that will go that route.

 

 

The reporter in the article I read (posted in other thread) went there too. I don't have much of a problem with either one really. They are similiar and apparently I'm not the only one to think that. You took way too much time trying to make me look bad on that one.....

The reporter in the article I read (posted in other thread) went there too. I don't have much of a problem with either one really. They are similiar and apparently I'm not the only one to think that. You took way too much time trying to make me look bad on that one.....

 

Dude, there is NO ONE who thinks what Scottie Pippen did was similar. LBJ was bad in appearance. The game was over. Nothing was going to change. Scottie QUIT on his team IN A PLAYOFF GAME. I'm not trying to make anyone look bad, my friend. I'm simply telling you that trying to somehow equate the two makes one look like a Pippen apologist.

Dude, there is NO ONE who thinks what Scottie Pippen did was similar. LBJ was bad in appearance. The game was over. Nothing was going to change. Scottie QUIT on his team IN A PLAYOFF GAME. I'm not trying to make anyone look bad, my friend. I'm simply telling you that trying to somehow equate the two makes one look like a Pippen apologist.

 

 

His creative twisting of the facts aside, know this: Never, ever did Jordan quit on a game before time expired. Scottie Pippen did, and while Bron-Bron's early Bye-Bye won't create the same tremors on the disgust meter that Quittin' Pippen's sulk job did in the playoffs, his walk-off still was shocking when you realize what he means to David Stern's league. Upset about his team's performance at home, on LeBron Bobblehead Night, James missed a three-pointer late in overtime and proceeded to do the darnedest thing: He kept walking while his four teammates and five Atlanta players ran to the other end of the court for the last possession. I don't care if he was frustrated, ticked off and ready to hurl his Zoom LeBron IV signature sneakers at someone's head. It's his responsibility, as the league's most-hyped player and supposed heir to royalty's throne, to finish the game with his mates and leave with them. To separate himself isn't good leadership form, especially after he missed 6 of 11 foul shots and let little Tyronn Lue lift a runner over him at the regulation buzzer.

 

 

When Randy Moss quit on his NFL team, he was excoriated. While LeBron is a model citizen, by comparison, and has handled off--court fame remarkably well for his age, he doesn't deserve a pass. He violated the same competitive code, and it will be fascinating to see how he responds to a rare heap of criticism against a Bulls club that never would quit on Skiles -- unless an offender wanted to run laps from Deerfield to the United Center the rest of the season, assuming he wasn't tossed off the roster first.

 

 

and Randy Moss.................

 

 

BY JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times Columnist

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/130324,cst-spt-jay09.article

His creative twisting of the facts aside, know this: Never, ever did Jordan quit on a game before time expired. Scottie Pippen did, and while Bron-Bron's early Bye-Bye won't create the same tremors on the disgust meter that Quittin' Pippen's sulk job did in the playoffs, his walk-off still was shocking when you realize what he means to David Stern's league.

 

Agree so far.

 

Upset about his team's performance at home, on LeBron Bobblehead Night, James missed a three-pointer late in overtime and proceeded to do the darnedest thing: He kept walking while his four teammates and five Atlanta players ran to the other end of the court for the last possession. I don't care if he was frustrated, ticked off and ready to hurl his Zoom LeBron IV signature sneakers at someone's head. It's his responsibility, as the league's most-hyped player and supposed heir to royalty's throne, to finish the game with his mates and leave with them. To separate himself isn't good leadership form, especially after he missed 6 of 11 foul shots and let little Tyronn Lue lift a runner over him at the regulation buzzer.

 

We're rolling, brother.

 

 

When Randy Moss quit on his NFL team, he was excoriated. While LeBron is a model citizen, by comparison, and has handled off--court fame remarkably well for his age, he doesn't deserve a pass. He violated the same competitive code, and it will be fascinating to see how he responds to a rare heap of criticism against a Bulls club that never would quit on Skiles -- unless an offender wanted to run laps from Deerfield to the United Center the rest of the season, assuming he wasn't tossed off the roster first.

 

 

and Randy Moss.................

 

 

BY JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times Columnist

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/130324,cst-spt-jay09.article

 

 

We're good still.

 

I STILL don't see how Pippen's quitting is on the same level.

Agree so far.

 

 

 

We're rolling, brother.

 

 

 

 

 

We're good still.

 

I STILL don't see how Pippen's quitting is on the same level.

 

 

 

Similiar but different. Pippen's was obviously a bigger deal. Quiting is quiting.

Dude, there is NO ONE who thinks what Scottie Pippen did was similar. LBJ was bad in appearance. The game was over. Nothing was going to change. Scottie QUIT on his team IN A PLAYOFF GAME. I'm not trying to make anyone look bad, my friend. I'm simply telling you that trying to somehow equate the two makes one look like a Pippen apologist.

 

I still can't believe people want to dredge up something that happened more than a decade ago and bring it into the arguement. Pippen got blasted for what he did, the Bulls kept him around, he won three more titles, and he's long gone.

 

All you're doing by bringing it up is attempting to make what James did look less bad. He was wrong.

I will give you that... he was wrong in that one particular idiotic move. But don't tell me he hasnt carried the team and that others don't need to step up. They may have stuck around the last 11 seconds but they havent helped him much in the last 5-8 games. The move he made was embarrassing and I am sure he regretted it but if there is one pure athlete who comes to work each and every day and you don't have to worry about him impregnating 10 different women, carrying a weapon, fighting outside stripclubs, smoking weed, I think that is Lebron. Do you agree there?

 

 

He's suppossed to carry the team, that's what mega superstars get paid a gizzillion dollars to do. You act like the other guys just have to push that magic "step up" button and they'll be able to help more. Maybe they just aren't that good.

 

As far as the athlete doing well part, I'm assuming you mean in the NBA, because Peyton Manning and Derek Jeter were pretty solid citizen/superstars before LeBron was even King James. As for the NBA, last year's MVP seems to be a solid citizen/pure athlete as well.

 

I will agree, I don't guess I have to worry much about James doing the other stuff. But, then, a week ago I'd never thought I'd have seen him walk off the court during a game either.

Sorry I do not get all the fuss.

 

Atlanta wasn't trying to score (they were already up a bunch at the end of OT) and I'd rather he be upset at the way he and the Cavs gave the game away at the end of regulation and leave the court than to start hugging and shaking hands with the Hawks. It was a tough loss at home and I understand his frustration.

 

To me it is just like half the NFL players running off the field with 20 seconds to go and no timeouts left and the other half hugging each other.

 

First off, the huge difference is when NFL players run off the field as mentioned, the ball is not in play, and isn't going back into play.

 

But don't tell me you understand (condone) his "frustration". That's the problem with athletics and why it keeps filtering down to the kids. That's why high school kids and even younger want to peel off their jersey when they foul out now (they're just frustrated after all). It's why kids want to talk back to their coaches (he's just frustrated after all). I guess the next thing is some 10-year-old "little LeBron" will miss a three and keep walking before the game ends, and everyone should be okay with that. After all he's frustrated and his teammates need to step up.

 

James gets paid millions to play the game, sports are suppossed to teach a few life lessons, like having a touch of mental toughness and composure. If you give James a free pass on this one, what do you expect the kids to learn?

Similiar but different. Pippen's was obviously a bigger deal. Quiting is quiting.

 

Wrong is wrong.

 

If you rob a bank, is your defense going to be "Yeah, judge I robbed a bank, but the guy you had in here before me killed somebody."

From the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

 

LeBron's critics can take a walk

 

It is nonsense to fix the perception of James from what happened in the final seconds Tuesday.

 

The seconds of James' career that will always be remembered are those when he drove the baseline with his off hand and knifed to the basket like the villain in a slasher flick in the last seconds of playoff overtime against the Wizards and the sinewy bank shot on the way down earlier in the series.

 

Still, some of us do remember tales about a player who played twice as many games in a different sport and played hard in everyone of them. Why?

 

"Because there might be somebody there who's never seen me play before," said Joe DiMaggio.