April 23, 20179 yr Saying that you have to prioritize the safety of the people on campus is being obtuse? I give you legit answers and you keep the "what if" game going. It is never ending. That is being obtuse.
April 23, 20179 yr I give you legit answers and you keep the "what if" game going. It is never ending. That is being obtuse. You are trying to make it black and white when I'm pointing out reasons that the head of the school may have to cancel. That's not being obtuse. That's showing what it's like for the person who has the responsibility of the entire university vs us sitting on the sidelines. You are making it black and white when I'm showing you examples of why it's not. No way you'd want a university to allow a speaker on campus after a bomb threat has been made AND your child was on campus. No way. You're not yelling "free speech" at the school president.
April 23, 20179 yr You are trying to make it black and white when I'm pointing out reasons that the head of the school may have to cancel. That's not being obtuse. That's showing what it's like for the person who has the responsibility of the entire university vs us sitting on the sidelines. You are making it black and white when I'm showing you examples of why it's not. No way you'd want a university to allow a speaker on campus after a bomb threat has been made AND your child was on campus. No way. You're not yelling "free speech" at the school president. And you're letting a bunch of anarchists rule your world. Not me. Things don't always have gray areas. Sometimes things are black and white. You can't "what if" your way through life and make any forward progress.
April 23, 20179 yr And you're letting a bunch of anarchists rule your world. Not me. Things don't always have gray areas. Sometimes things are black and white. You can't "what if" your way through life and make any forward progress. You didn't reply to my assertion that you wouldn't support the president if your child was on campus with a bomb threat.
April 23, 20179 yr Berkeley is an extremely liberal campus. Coulter is offensive. We aren't talking about a respectable voice of conservatism. It's hard for me to believe this wasn't some type of ploy to bait the university: To rile up the left and the right.
April 23, 20179 yr You didn't reply to my assertion that you wouldn't support the president if your child was on campus with a bomb threat. Sure I would. My children know how to stand up for themselves Clyde. The point you are missing is you are playing the "what if" game with this. There was no bomb threat. Protesters threatened to disrupt and the President folded like cheap lawn furniture in a wind storm. No backbone. This is the second time for this guy.
April 24, 20179 yr Saying that you have to prioritize the safety of the people on campus is being obtuse? I think my point and your point can work together. I agree safety should be important but we cannot allow anarchist to dictate free speech. Suitable saftey measures should be put in place. They had weeks to do such for this event. After past riots on campus it should not come as a shock. But if you can not guarantee speeches of all viewpoints then there should be no such speeches allowed
April 24, 20179 yr Berkeley is an extremely liberal campus. Coulter is offensive. We aren't talking about a respectable voice of conservatism. It's hard for me to believe this wasn't some type of ploy to bait the university: To rile up the left and the right. Unpopular speech is no less protected in this country.
April 24, 20179 yr Unpopular speech is no less protected in this country. Agreed. She can say all she wants but she isn't guaranteed a pulpit at a university: a liberal one at that. Who the hell scheduled her anyway? The person at Berkeley that booked her and Milo Y need to be fired. Again neither are respectable voices of conservatism.
April 24, 20179 yr Agreed. She can say all she wants but she isn't guaranteed a pulpit at a university: a liberal one at that. Who the hell scheduled her anyway? The person at Berkeley that booked her and Milo Y need to be fired. Again neither are respectable voices of conservatism. Actually yes she is at a public university sponsored by a club at the university. Speech isn't determined by who make up the majority . That was about as anti american of a post I have read in awhile.
April 24, 20179 yr Agreed. She can say all she wants but she isn't guaranteed a pulpit at a university: a liberal one at that. Who the hell scheduled her anyway? The person at Berkeley that booked her and Milo Y need to be fired. Again neither are respectable voices of conservatism. I don't think liberals are in a position to dictate who are the " respectful " voices of conservatism. No more than a conservative telling you who you should be listening to. Censorship is up to the individual, not the opinion of others.
April 24, 20179 yr I find socialist, communist, anti-capitilist, and pro Palestinian speakers to be offensive. But I respect their right to speak. But these liberal students won't be rioting when speakers I listed speak even though their agendas are anti-American .
April 24, 20179 yr I find socialist, communist, anti-capitilist, and pro Palestinian speakers to be offensive. But I respect their right to speak. But these liberal students won't be rioting when speakers I listed speak even though their agendas are anti-American . Because the NEW left is anti-american.
April 24, 20179 yr Because the NEW left is anti-american. I won't agree with this. I don't think a majority on the left agree with this. I just think to many are silent on these ideas and allow them to grow. To many fear getting labeled if they speak against.
April 24, 20179 yr Actually yes she is at a public university sponsored by a club at the university. Speech isn't determined by who make up the majority . That was about as anti american of a post I have read in awhile. :ohbrother: Who's next David Duke ? The administration needs to question the incendiary voices they are inviting in. FWIW There are liberal speakers I would believe shouldn't be invited to speak at a public university.
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