How long has meadows been gone? Did he leave on his own?

 

He's been gone for at least 2 or 3 years. If I remember correctly he was the one that got HHS playing the 3-5 defense when he came on board.

C'mon man! Give me some credit. I started in the conversation trying to be serious and answering your questions. But you don't like the answers! I can't help that.

 

And didn't I tell you about the enrollment?

 

And didn't I contribute to what I feel next year and a few years after that may bring?

 

I asked you to bullet out your questions (being serious and trying to get you your answers) and I would get you your answers one by one. You act like you’ve only asked 3 questions or made accusations about a couple things. Its 14 pages long. There is a lot more in there than that! I asked for a list that included everything you wanted to know and you blew that off!

 

THEN, I said I’ll meet you and even buy! And you weaseled out of that offer. I’m really not sure how much else we can do for you at this point!

 

I have contributed my opinions and told you that the sky is not falling in the Fort, but you don’t want to believe it. EVERYTIME someone has told you anything, you take it as not true or you don’t believe it. I’m not sure what we can contribute if you don’t clarify what you’re actually trying to get to.

 

You are impossible! Are you married?

I'm starting to feel like you are the enemy torturing us for more intelligence to take back to you commanding officers!

 

Troops...Maybe we should go on lockdown and shut down this communication channel. We may be playing right into the hands of the enemy!

 

Eddie, is this you?

I'm starting to feel like you are the enemy torturing us for more intelligence to take back to you commanding officers!

 

Troops...Maybe we should go on lockdown and shut down this communication channel. We may be playing right into the hands of the enemy!

 

Eddie, is this you?

 

:lol2: See post #154

:lol2: See post #154

 

Well I'm attached now! I can't let go.

I haven't skated around any answers. I have answered all these in depth about 10 times on BGP. Others have answered you in this thread and I agree with all of them. You just don't like the answers. I'm not sure what else to say at this point. If you have things you'd really like more details, I will do what I can.

You've done nothing but skate around the answers in this thread, except for maybe one or two general posts at the start of the thread.

 

It's not that I don't "like" the answers, it's that they haven't made sense and they've gone against everything that the Highlands' crowd bragged about for so many years as for all the reasons of success.

 

People have offered vague possibilities, but none have really offered any full explanation or have provided a logical explanation.

 

And if you've answered them in other threads, what good does that do in this thread? Why wouldn't you just answer it here.

The reason for talent drop off? I can't tell you for sure because I don't know it could be for various reasons such as closing outside enrollment, just a natural dip in talent... I really don't know.

 

No way do I think the defensive lack of attitude was due to BW unless he has changed how he coaches. Players used to be terrified when coach Mueller would rarely have to miss a practice and coach W would take over for the day because you never knew what kind of hell you were going to be put through. I do think Coach meadows attitude is missed on the defensive side of the ball (now coaching at Campbell County) he always could light a fire under players.

I thought the closing enrollment happened years ago, though, and didn't seem to have any effect when Dale was here. It's also surprising that, even with closing enrollment borders, there would be a drop-off in talent because of the feeder system where kids are learning to play football in the Highlands' style with other kids that they'll play with through high school.

 

I thought BW was an outside hire, which makes the drop even more surprising because you'd think things wouldn't change much at all in the way things were done (practices, conditioning, offseason, pre-game, etc.).

 

 

C'mon man! Give me some credit. I started in the conversation trying to be serious and answering your questions. But you don't like the answers! I can't help that.

 

And didn't I tell you about the enrollment?

 

And didn't I contribute to what I feel next year and a few years after that may bring?

 

I asked you to bullet out your questions (being serious and trying to get you your answers) and I would get you your answers one by one. You act like you’ve only asked 3 questions or made accusations about a couple things. Its 14 pages long. There is a lot more in there than that! I asked for a list that included everything you wanted to know and you blew that off!

How many threads in this forum ask multiple questions and have civil people that answer them?

 

Strongside had no problem doing it above.

 

I did only ask a few in the original post and actually I don't believe I've asked many more.

 

Don't tell me to bullet the questions like you're better than me. Don't be a child. Answer the questions.

 

 

THEN, I said I’ll meet you and even buy! And you weaseled out of that offer. I’m really not sure how much else we can do for you at this point!

How many times do I have to explain this?! It's a message board! It's for discussing things like the things I'm asking! It's for everyone! Not just me!

 

So, no, I didn't weasel out, I'm being an adult about this and just trying to start a conversation. Why is that so hard for you?

I have contributed my opinions and told you that the sky is not falling in the Fort, but you don’t want to believe it. EVERYTIME someone has told you anything, you take it as not true or you don’t believe it. I’m not sure what we can contribute if you don’t clarify what you’re actually trying to get to.

I'd be more than happy to believe it if it made any sense!

 

You can't just say "everything is the same" when everything clearly isn' the same!

You are impossible! Are you married?

 

I'm impossible for searching for answers and not just accepting "it's this because I say it is" from you.

 

Typical.

I'm really starting to feel sorry for you? I'm sorry. But it is comical. But I'll stop laughing and replying so you can move on.

 

Have a great day and PM me if you ever want to get that drink!

I thought the closing enrollment happened years ago, though, and didn't seem to have any effect when Dale was here. It's also surprising that, even with closing enrollment borders, there would be a drop-off in talent because of the feeder system where kids are learning to play football in the Highlands' style with other kids that they'll play with through high school.

 

Biggest part of your inability to understand....you don't know what you are talking about and you don't care to listen.

 

You "thinking" closing enrollment happened years ago is not accurate, but you continued to attempt to build your argument / discussion on false information.

 

Seek first to understand, then to be understood...

I blame Steve, its all Steve's fault.

People have offered vague possibilities, but none have really offered any full explanation or have provided a logical explanation.

 

Vague possibilities, no full or logical explanations. Give me a break. The answers were given, you just choose not accept them because then there would be nothing else to talk about. Just admit it, you started the thread to stir the pot and continue the bashing.

 

Talent Depth is down. Even the feeder program can't turn a turd in to a gem, it will keep kids interested, but isn't the be all end all reason Highlands has been good for so many years. Closed enrollment had nothing to do with the loss in depth.

 

One thing not mentioned before that may have a small impact on the talent depth is that some kids are choosing to focus on one sport instead of playing multiple sports.

 

So I guess to summarize for you, there isn't one thing or reason that you can point to that led to last years first losing season in 60 years.

 

But we all know that's not good enough for you. So again, define downfall and tell us what you think is wrong.

Highlands has had a long -standing tradition in football which is not and will not be defined by a couple of lack luster years. When you have been on top for so long many will cherish every time you stump your toe. I would advise everyone close to the program to look to see what they can do to help the program rather than hurt it.

Once the cancer starts it is hard to get rid of-

Vague possibilities, no full or logical explanations. Give me a break. The answers were given, you just choose not accept them because then there would be nothing else to talk about. Just admit it, you started the thread to stir the pot and continue the bashing.

 

People didn't give one complete answer. Some people said feeder and other people gave different ideas.

 

I'd be happy to accept some logical explanation and not just "a down year or two but everything is fine in Fort Thomas," because that doesn't seem to fit.

 

I didn't start this thread to stir the pot, I started this thread because Highlands is and always has been CovCath's biggest rival, and also because Highlands fans were so die-hard about drilling into the ground "Highlands reloads, they don't rebuild," and everything else about how great the feeder program was and how dominant Highlands always is, so I was wondering what changed.

 

Furthermore, it's high school football in Northern Kentucky, which is always a blast to talk about and Highlands has always been the cream of the crop up here (and in all of Kentucky).

 

Talent Depth is down. Even the feeder program can't turn a turd in to a gem, it will keep kids interested, but isn't the be all end all reason Highlands has been good for so many years. Closed enrollment had nothing to do with the loss in depth.

 

The feeder program quit developing kids? Don't need to work miracles, but developing kids starting in grade school had them at least able to play football at an average level, and then the Highlands' program helped develop them more and also made it easy because a pass-first system is hard to stop when you have a bunch of fresh receivers that spread the defense out and just run routes. That's tough for colleges and even the NFL to stop when it's run properly, even without superstar receivers.

 

Is their talent at quarterback down? Receivers are a dime a dozen, especially with a feeder program like Highlands has because they've all played. That could be an explanation, and I'm not saying they need an All-American, but just someone that can deliver the ball.

 

One thing not mentioned before that may have a small impact on the talent depth is that some kids are choosing to focus on one sport instead of playing multiple sports.

So they're playing basketball and baseball instead of football? Seems to me like they would have always chosen football back in years past.

 

 

So I guess to summarize for you, there isn't one thing or reason that you can point to that led to last years first losing season in 60 years.

I know it can't be pointed to ONE thing, but I was looking for a collection of answers that made sense.

 

I thought maybe it was as simple as Dale was really that good of a coach, but it doesn't seem like many people think that's the reason.

 

You also act like "one losing season" is that much out of the norm when they would beat every team they played, especially in Northern Kentucky, by 60 and would only lose one game a year for the longest time and it was always to some out-of-state powerhouse.

But we all know that's not good enough for you. So again, define downfall and tell us what you think is wrong.

 

 

Downfall is not dominating football in 5a (and all of KY outside of a few big 6a schools) anymore. Downfall is not blowing every team out by 50+ like they used to. Downfall is not winning state every year.

 

Might be more that I think of later, but that's a good start.

I'm really starting to feel sorry for you? I'm sorry. But it is comical. But I'll stop laughing and replying so you can move on.

 

Have a great day and PM me if you ever want to get that drink!

 

Fine. Let's meet so you can describe everything about Highlands' football that you couldn't post on here like this message board is meant for.

 

You say that you can't see expressions, reactions, instant responses on here, but isn't it like that with EVERYTHING posted on here? Why is discussing Highlands' football different?

 

No matter, though, because we'll meet. The Wings and Rings in the Crestview Hills Town Center is an easy place for me to roll to, so let me know when and we'll do it.

 

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