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Dayton 51 Morehead State 27

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Final.

 

MSU not having a good season so far. :eyeonyou:

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Not what they're doing this season.

Final.

 

MSU not having a good season so far. :eyeonyou:

 

Wireman I'm afraid they won't have many more (if any) good seasons as long as they are non-scholarship.

Wireman I'm afraid they won't have many more (if any) good seasons as long as they are non-scholarship.

 

I dont wonder if they will even have a program in 10 years.

Wireman I'm afraid they won't have many more (if any) good seasons as long as they are non-scholarship.

 

Even though schools in their conference are also non-scholly?

If the schools in the Pioneer League hadn't gone non-scholarship when they entered Division 1 in the early 90s, they'd have just cancelled their programs like so many schools did from the 1960s onward, but the rest of the league is all private schools so their calculations are a bit different.

 

The only analogous school is Austin Peay. They were in the OVC, moved to the Pioneer League, stayed for several years then went back to the OVC. Anyone know the financial situation of APSU football since going back to scholarships?

Even though schools in their conference are also non-scholly?

But most of those other schools other than probably Drake and Valpo have a lot larger area to get quailty players not offered scholarships. Heck in eastern Kentucky even Kentucky Christian University even offers scholarships in football. MSU just has trouble getting players

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I think MSU has to find a way to do more with less. What I mean by that is that they are playing a form of offense that is indeed exciting but that also requires great athletes to be successful. They aren't getting those types of athletes in non-scholarship football. The ticket for me would be to run option football like Navy. Find some big, strong backs and some Belfry linemen and let them do work. Just my opinion after watching the Eagles a few times.

Anyone know the financial situation of APSU football since going back to scholarships?

 

The difference between the APSU expense budget for athletics and Morehead's expense budget is $1.4 million (APSU spends $9,845,000, Morehead spends $8,149,000). I don't know what the value of a full ride at Morehead, but spit-balling it is around $15,000 per year, multiplied by 83, you'd have a Financial Aid impact on the budget alone of $1,245,000, before you'd hire one coach or buy one piece of equipment.

 

The major difference between those two is in Athletic Revenues. Morehead, in 14-15, had Athletic Revenues of $1,127,007 ($271,000 of which was from basketball "buy games"). Austin Peay's athletic revenue in 14-15 was $9,226,000, but I can't find a line-item break-out for what went into that. Either way, it is surprising not at all that Morehead State would be a department being subsidized by the school / state at about 86% -- that jives nearly exactly with Wright State's athletic department short-fall in Ohio.

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How much do small schools get for pay games from BCS schools? Let's say Morehead went with scholarship football and played a road game at Kentucky...is that similar to basketball payouts or do football teams earn more?

How much do small schools get for pay games from BCS schools? Let's say Morehead went with scholarship football and played a road game at Kentucky...is that similar to basketball payouts or do football teams earn more?

Football earns WAY more, for sure some of the gap for APSU is football "buy games" -- many can be $500,000 or higher.

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Football earns WAY more, for sure some of the gap for APSU is football "buy games" -- many can be $500,000 or higher.

 

That's what I figured.

 

I would love to see MSU go back to scholarship football but not sure it'll ever happen

The difference between the APSU expense budget for athletics and Morehead's expense budget is $1.4 million (APSU spends $9,845,000, Morehead spends $8,149,000). I don't know what the value of a full ride at Morehead, but spit-balling it is around $15,000 per year, multiplied by 83, you'd have a Financial Aid impact on the budget alone of $1,245,000, before you'd hire one coach or buy one piece of equipment.

 

The major difference between those two is in Athletic Revenues. Morehead, in 14-15, had Athletic Revenues of $1,127,007 ($271,000 of which was from basketball "buy games"). Austin Peay's athletic revenue in 14-15 was $9,226,000, but I can't find a line-item break-out for what went into that. Either way, it is surprising not at all that Morehead State would be a department being subsidized by the school / state at about 86% -- that jives nearly exactly with Wright State's athletic department short-fall in Ohio.

 

That's quite a divergence. Does playing OVC football account for that staggering difference in revenue?

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