April 21, 201610 yr Count me in the group that thinks there has to be more to this. No way would they do this as it's a blatant violation of separation of church and state as was previously mentioned.
April 21, 201610 yr Debunking these Todd Starnes/Fox thread-starters is more fun than doing crossword puzzles. Yes, there is more to the story, but that's never stopped Todd Starnes, the right-wing darling of more than one poster. The "firing" occurred two years ago. Actually, there was no firing. The job offer from Georgia was rescinded after more facts became known. Here are a couple links that fill in some of the details. Pasadena's Eric Walsh loses Georgia offer after controversial sermons - LA Times Pasadena health director put on leave over controversial comments - LA Times
April 21, 201610 yr Free speech has never been without consequences. Agreed . People don't understand what free speech . In this case though it's a government agency firing someone for religious speech in church. A direct violation of the 1st ammendment.
April 21, 201610 yr Debunking these Todd Starnes/Fox thread-starters is more fun than doing crossword puzzles. Yes, there is more to the story, but that's never stopped Todd Starnes, the right-wing darling of more than one poster. The "firing" occurred two years ago. Actually, there was no firing. The job offer from Georgia was rescinded after more facts became known. Here are a couple links that fill in some of the details. Pasadena's Eric Walsh loses Georgia offer after controversial sermons - LA Times Pasadena health director put on leave over controversial comments - LA Times So a government agency didn't give him a job because of religious speech in church. Still a violation. The government must be agnostic to someone religious beliefs when hiring. What if a government agency didn't hire someone for being Muslim or a Jewish man because of Israel. Can't be tolerated.
April 21, 201610 yr Count me in the group that thinks there has to be more to this. No way would they do this as it's a blatant violation of separation of church and state as was previously mentioned. I understand your skepticism. But, to assume that government is infallible, and that government will not violate Constitutional rights...................that would be gullible and short sighted.
April 21, 201610 yr State Allegedly Terminated Health Director Over His Religious Speeches at Church | LawNewz He was offered the job and the offer was taken back 30 days later do to his sermons on homosexuality while on the pulpit in church. If this isn't a direct violation of the 1st ammendment I don't know what is .
April 21, 201610 yr So a government agency didn't give him a job because of religious speech in church. Still a violation. The government must be agnostic to someone religious beliefs when hiring. What if a government agency didn't hire someone for being Muslim or a Jewish man because of Israel. Can't be tolerated. I think what might sink Walsh's case is the fact that the message was disseminated beyond the walls of his church by being posted online, thus moving from the religious to the secular world. Since he also never worked a day in his new job in Georgia, the state might be off the hook for needing a reason to sever the working relationship. This might not be a whole lot different than what got Curt Schilling canned this week. Once one puts controversial speech online, then negative consequences might result.
April 21, 201610 yr I think what might sink Walsh's case is the fact that the message was disseminated beyond the walls of his church by being posted online, thus moving from the religious to the secular world. Since he also never worked a day in his new job in Georgia, the state might be off the hook for needing a reason to sever the working relationship. This might not be a whole lot different than what got Curt Schilling canned this week. Once one puts controversial speech online, then negative consequences might result. A few differences , ESPN is a private company , Schilling attempted a joke , and also was talking in a religious context. I think Schilling should of been more tasteful in his approach , I don't think someone should be fired for their position on transgenders in bathrooms. But private companies have flexibility with their image. The federal government can not in any case decide what religious beliefs they approve.
April 22, 201610 yr A few differences , ESPN is a private company , Schilling attempted a joke , and also was talking in a religious context. I think Schilling should of been more tasteful in his approach , I don't think someone should be fired for their position on transgenders in bathrooms. But private companies have flexibility with their image. The federal government can not in any case decide what religious beliefs they approve. I closed the tab as soon as I saw the author, and I'm mad that I gave Starnes a hit on one of his articles. I have no idea what this situation even involves but Schilling didn't attempt a joke. He doubled down with a blog post and has a history of using social media to cringeworthy effects. Like I said, I don't know anything about this story outside of the 23 posts above mine, but based on the track record of Starnes, I give it a 100% chance that there is much more to the story that has been conveniently omitted.
April 22, 201610 yr I closed the tab as soon as I saw the author, and I'm mad that I gave Starnes a hit on one of his articles. I have no idea what this situation even involves but Schilling didn't attempt a joke. He doubled down with a blog post and has a history of using social media to cringeworthy effects. Like I said, I don't know anything about this story outside of the 23 posts above mine, but based on the track record of Starnes, I give it a 100% chance that there is much more to the story that has been conveniently omitted. That's why I didn't give a strong stance until I posted an article from a law news website I read.
April 22, 201610 yr Author I think what might sink Walsh's case is the fact that the message was disseminated beyond the walls of his church by being posted online, thus moving from the religious to the secular world. Since he also never worked a day in his new job in Georgia, the state might be off the hook for needing a reason to sever the working relationship. This might not be a whole lot different than what got Curt Schilling canned this week. Once one puts controversial speech online, then negative consequences might result. If something happened that went against what the liberals want, lets say mass genocide of Christians you would defend it. There is no defense here. This has went over the edge. I am not surprised though. More is coming I am sure. When we cannot figure out what gender we are as a human we are in trouble from many different angles. Problem is the people who are screaming tolerance are not being very tolerant here.
April 22, 201610 yr Author I closed the tab as soon as I saw the author, and I'm mad that I gave Starnes a hit on one of his articles. I have no idea what this situation even involves but Schilling didn't attempt a joke. He doubled down with a blog post and has a history of using social media to cringeworthy effects. Like I said, I don't know anything about this story outside of the 23 posts above mine, but based on the track record of Starnes, I give it a 100% chance that there is much more to the story that has been conveniently omitted. So you are saying this man lies every time he writes an article?
April 22, 201610 yr If something happened that went against what the liberals want, lets say mass genocide of Christians you would defend it. ... Get real.
April 22, 201610 yr So you are saying this man lies every time he writes an article? I think I was pretty clear.
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