Was Cooper at full strength tonite?

 

Like mentioned before, still without McNeil and Kunkel. There is no replacing those two but Cooper is still a strong team. Chris McNeil has really stepped up and has been shooting the ball great. Runion is a really good player and has just been over-shadowed a little bit by Kunkel and McNeil. Hendrix has done a better job of scoring and Rohlman has stepped up. They are getting better production from everyone in their absence and I think tomorrow will be a classic.

 

I don't have any idea on strategy as I am not a basketball coach, but I think you put the defensive player of the year in Hendrix on Scott and that limits him, then you have to make Hemmerich work on both ends and wear him down. I know Conner will look to limit McNeil and Rohlman and force the others to beat them. Should be a great game against two rivals, I expect Hebron to be rocking Friday night at 6:30 and either way both of these teams are making it to the Region and Cooper is possibly getting their best player back next week so both of these teams should be alright.

 

Looking forward to watching a good basketball game between two good teams. Cooper will have fresher legs because they had an easier night but Conner will be on an emotional high at home coming off a big win against a rival! Is it Friday yet?

 

Would love to meet some of the BGP faithful that will be there, if anyone is interested send me a PM :jump:

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Everyone has an opinion on the play but from someone that has no dog in the fight it was not a charge. The Ryle player gave the Euro step and Padgett slid to his right and fell back. Should have been a block or swallow the whistle. Either way, congrats to Conner and like someone mentioned, Friday should be a dandy

 

I would have to agree with you 100 percent on this. Swallow the whistle. Reward the kid who stole the pass and played great D, don't reward the team that turned it over and give them the charge call on the other side of the floor. If it was questionable, swallow the whistle.

I would have to agree with you 100 percent on this. Swallow the whistle. Reward the kid who stole the pass and played great D, don't reward the team that turned it over and give them the charge call on the other side of the floor. If it was questionable, swallow the whistle.

 

You can't swallow the whistle if there's a trainwreck. It has to be something.

I would have to agree with you 100 percent on this. Swallow the whistle. Reward the kid who stole the pass and played great D, don't reward the team that turned it over and give them the charge call on the other side of the floor. If it was questionable, swallow the whistle.

 

My disagreement is with "rewarding" a team for making a basketball play. Regardless of how the play starts, a charge is a charge and a block a block. I was there (as a Conner grad/fan) and still can't say for certain how I think the call should have gone.

 

Padgett was set for a while, but the kid did try to step around. TOUGH CALL, but regardless how the play transpired should have ZERO impact on the refs call.

Conner by 8

They are ready and have been playing with a lot of energy

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My disagreement is with "rewarding" a team for making a basketball play. Regardless of how the play starts, a charge is a charge and a block a block. I was there (as a Conner grad/fan) and still can't say for certain how I think the call should have gone.

 

Padgett was set for a while, but the kid did try to step around. TOUGH CALL, but regardless how the play transpired should have ZERO impact on the refs call.

 

You are correct. A team doesn't get a "pass" on a call just because the other team made a mistake that led to them having the ball. It's just like when people say "you can't give a foul to an out of control player." Yes. You can. D still has to abide by the rules.

A charge is a charge and the Conner player was not set by no means, he was in action sliding over, that's a block, the Ryle player avoided any charge by the euro step.

A charge is a charge and the Conner player was not set by no means, he was in action sliding over, that's a block, the Ryle player avoided any charge by the euro step.

 

We all get it, you think Ryle got hosed the other night, but it was a bang bang play. I've talked to 2 different Ryle fans who thought it was a charge, and a Conner fan I sat next to thought it was a block. It was a huge play in the game, but not the deciding factor. Give some credit to the 2 Conner players that stepped up and hit 1 and 1's to finish the game. It was a really fun game to watch, and tonight in Hebron will be no different.

We all get it, you think Ryle got hosed the other night, but it was a bang bang play. I've talked to 2 different Ryle fans who thought it was a charge, and a Conner fan I sat next to thought it was a block. It was a huge play in the game, but not the deciding factor. Give some credit to the 2 Conner players that stepped up and hit 1 and 1's to finish the game. It was a really fun game to watch, and tonight in Hebron will be no different.

 

I watched the video and still can't tell. The ONLY good angle would have been from behind the play which the official had. You can't tell from the stands.

My disagreement is with "rewarding" a team for making a basketball play. Regardless of how the play starts, a charge is a charge and a block a block. I was there (as a Conner grad/fan) and still can't say for certain how I think the call should have gone.

 

Padgett was set for a while, but the kid did try to step around. TOUGH CALL, but regardless how the play transpired should have ZERO impact on the refs call.

 

That is the tricky part I think. Kyler did beat the Ryle player to the initial spot, but when O'Hara side stepped and Padgett had to slide to get in front of him by rule is a blocking foul and not a charge. That is the only reason I said swallow the whistle or call it a block. I don't necessarily think you "reward" anyone, just make the right call.

I watched the video and still can't tell. The ONLY good angle would have been from behind the play which the official had. You can't tell from the stands.

 

The part I don't like is the official already at that end who was technically behind Padgett but in front of the play blew the whistle but did not make the call. It was the official running the sideline on the scorer's table and was behind the play. I don't think he had a good look at it, especially with the play occurring a little bit toward the other side of the floor. It was one of those bang bang plays that unfortunately came at a CRUCIAL time.

Kyler could have slid sideways and it still be a charge.

 

Rulebook says that once a player establishes legal guarding position (which he did) he can slide laterally to maintain position provided it is not toward the opponent when contact occurs.

 

Lots of factors go into the call.

Kyler could have slid sideways and it still be a charge.

 

Rulebook says that once a player establishes legal guarding position (which he did) he can slide laterally to maintain position provided it is not toward the opponent when contact occurs.

 

Lots of factors go into the call.

 

To me that is the answer right there. It is pretty much impossible not to slide under a player when they use the Euro-Step. When he has to move into the front of the player and does not re-establish it is a block, IMO

The amount of debate is really what shows how difficult this call was. Someone can interpret the action one way, someone else interpret it another.

 

I do agree it was weird to see which ref made the call, because you are correct KingofClutch he didn't seem to have the best angle, but we can't know for certain what he saw.