January 14, 201610 yr Shooting took place 3 years ago. PD chasing black teen. Said they thought he was armed and that he turned towards them. Shot in the back per reports. Judge ordered the video to be released. Black clergy pleading for calm. Cedrick Chatman police shooting video to be released Thursday | abc7chicago.com
January 14, 201610 yr Author Chicago PD uses an independent review board for police shootings. They had found 1 out of 400 to be unjustified. A retired officer was appointed to head up the board and he found some troubling things. Found more shootings that were unjustified. He was pressured to change his findings but refused. He was subsequently fired. His attorney claims that one of the shootings he said was unjustified was this shooting that is going to be released today.
January 14, 201610 yr Once again someone takes off running from the police. Instead of getting killed he would have only gotten 10 years or less since he was a minor. Unless maybe he had any priors? Folks, don't run from the cops. Around 1:30 p.m. that day, Cedrick and two men — Akeem Clarke, 22, and Martel Odom, 23 — climbed into a man's silver Dodge Charger to buy cellphone service from him, prosecutors related days later. An argument broke out, Clarke pulled the man into the back seat, and Clarke, Odom and Cedrick began to beat him, according to court documents. After robbing him of $400 in cash, Cedrick made off with the car while Clarke and Odum stayed behind. About 15 minutes later, Fry and his partner Toth noticed the stolen car near 75th Street and Jeffery Boulevard, next to South Shore College Prep, according to prosecutors. They pulled their unmarked police cruiser in front of the Charger, got out and walked up to it with their guns drawn. What happened during the next few seconds has been the source of legal debate for nearly three years. According to a police statement released a day later, Cedrick grabbed something from the car before jumping out and running off. The officers chased him, and he turned toward them, pointing a "black object" he was holding, according to Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden. Fry then raised his gun and shot Cedrick four times. Hours later, the teen was dead. "Believing the dark object to be a firearm and being in fear for [his] life, the officer fired at the offender, wounding him," Camden said. "You see him running away from the officers as fast as he possibly could — he never even begins to turn," Coffman said. "Fry never says anything. He just gets out of the car, watches him run with his gun trained on him, and fires." Satisfied with the police union's version of events, leaders within the Chicago Police Department opted not to punish Fry. Instead, Clarke and Odum — Cedrick's accomplices in the carjacking — each were charged with first-degree murder. In the written charges, prosecutors allege that the men "set in motion a chain of events that caused the death of Cedrick Chatman," despite being nowhere near the teen when he was killed. The murder charges eventually were dropped, but the men were each sentenced to 10 years in prison for robbery and unlawful vehicular invasion, according to the Sun-Times.
January 14, 201610 yr Author According to a police statement released a day later, Cedrick grabbed something from the car before jumping out and running off. The officers chased him, and he turned toward them, pointing a "black object" he was holding, according to Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden. The above is the key piece to this puzzle. Will the video show that?
January 14, 201610 yr According to a police statement released a day later, Cedrick grabbed something from the car before jumping out and running off. The officers chased him, and he turned toward them, pointing a "black object" he was holding, according to Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden. The above is the key piece to this puzzle. Will the video show that? Article below indicates he did not turn back.
January 14, 201610 yr Author Article below indicates he did not turn back. I saw that but let's see the video. If he didn't turn back then the officer is in trouble. Running does not warrant a shooting.
January 14, 201610 yr I saw that but let's see the video. If he didn't turn back then the officer is in trouble. Running does not warrant a shooting. I agree, Running does not warrant a shooting. but if this thug does not take off running he lives in prison to tell his side of the story.
January 14, 201610 yr I agree, Running does not warrant a shooting. but if this thug does not take off running he lives in prison to tell his side of the story. No one wants to hear that. Yet if you ask folks that run from the police why they did it. Half the time it's because they "didn't want to get shot". Apparently there's some that think they're faster than a bullet. The logic is very hard to comprehend.
January 14, 201610 yr Author I agree, Running does not warrant a shooting. but if this thug does not take off running he lives in prison to tell his side of the story. While true, it's immaterial. It doesn't exonerate the officer. It's not a "free pass."
January 14, 201610 yr What if a suspect is running away and has a gun? Should a cop be allowed to shoot if he feels the suspect is a danger to the public?
January 14, 201610 yr While true, it's immaterial. It doesn't exonerate the officer. It's not a "free pass." Not exonerating the officer. Just saying there is one more dead kid who made bad decisions which potentially caused someone else to make a bad decision that cost a kid his life and maybe even cost the officer some jail time.
January 14, 201610 yr If they shot him in the back, they need to be charged with murder. Not necessarily. If the person running has a gun and is an immediate threat to others, he can be shot in the back. Nothing is as cut and dry as some of you would like it to be.
January 14, 201610 yr Author What if a suspect is running away and has a gun? Should a cop be allowed to shoot if he feels the suspect is a danger to the public? My guess is it would be in very limited cases.
January 14, 201610 yr Author Not necessarily. If the person running has a gun and is an immediate threat to others, he can be shot in the back. Nothing is as cut and dry as some of you would like it to be. Cut and dry doesn't matter in this particular case. The video will either support the officer or it will say the officer was lying. Lying is a big problem and one that we've seen recently with Chicago PD in officer shootings. It then breeds mistrust of ANY officer shooting.
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