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11% of the Giants salary cap hasn't played 1 snap this season.

 

Will Beatty, their starting left tackle, tore his pectoral muscle in the off season. Tried rehabbing and coming back only to tear his rotator cuff during rehab.

 

Victor Cruz was coming back from his horrific knee injury last year only to strain his calf muscle. Tried coming back vs Buffalo, hurt it again. Tried coming back after the bye, hurt it again and is now out for the season.

 

$16 million tied up in those two players.

 

Someone better be getting cut or contracts restructured next season.

Eli Manning has thrown for 20 or more touchdowns in 10 seasons.

 

Only 5 QBs other than him have done that in NFL history.

Eli Manning has thrown for 20 or more touchdowns in 10 seasons.

 

Only 5 QBs other than him have done that in NFL history.

 

^Peyton, Brady, Favre, Brees, and Marino?

 

Philip Rivers next touchdown pass will make it 6.

 

Philip Rivers next touchdown pass will make it 6.

 

I figured the number would be higher. Was surprised when I read that stat.

Boy I would have thought Warren Moon and Dan Fouts but even the big passing offenses of the past pale in comparison to today's game.

Boy I would have thought Warren Moon and Dan Fouts but even the big passing offenses of the past pale in comparison to today's game.

 

Yea. I'd say the number will grow quickly

I figured the number would be higher. Was surprised when I read that stat.

 

I was shocked as well. I figured Fouts or Moon would have it as well. Rodgers, Palmer and Ryan should get there in the next 3-4 seasons.

I think Eli's overall numbers, along with his playoff success, will land...or...should land him in the hall of fame.

I think Eli's overall numbers, along with his playoff success, will land...or...should land him in the hall of fame.

 

You'll get no argument from me on that. His numbers would warrant serious consideration on their own--the 2 Super Bowls I think clinch it.

 

You'll get no argument from me on that. His numbers would warrant serious consideration on their own--the 2 Super Bowls I think clinch it.

 

Agreed

I agree with Eli belonging. With that said, the Hall is going to have to begin evaluating QBs differently. Let's take Andy Dalton for example. If he plays for 15 years, and most consider him an average QB (this season obviously better), his numbers would stack up against anyone pre-modern era. The offenses are different, the rules are different, and folks throw the ball much more frequently.

I agree with Eli belonging. With that said' date=' the Hall is going to have to begin evaluating QBs differently. Let's take Andy Dalton for example. If he plays for 15 years, and most consider him an average QB (this season obviously better), his numbers would stack up against anyone pre-modern era. The offenses are different, the rules are different, and folks throw the ball much more frequently.[/quote']

 

I agree that they will have to evaluate them differently. That's why I think Eli separates himself with his super bowls.

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