Praise the Lord! With all the switching why not just play AAU all winter?

We are now into the "era of the KHS-AAU." With the current mindset of kids and their parents wanting to do whatever they want, whenever they want, the KHSAA(U) has the impossible and thankless job of trying to police every attempt to circumvent the basic statutes of residency and participation at a single school. The whole thing is corrupt, which mostly is a character issue of our current sports culture. Not to mix metaphors and sports, but it may be time for the KHSAA to quick-kick and quit trying.

IT MAY BE TIME TO RELENT AND ALLOW OPEN ENROLLMENT AND MAKE IT JUST LIKE AAU. PEOPLE ARE IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WHEN THEY DO NOT ADMIT THAT THE CURRENT CLIMATE IS STAKED ON THE ACCUMULATION OF TALENT, WHICH IS JUST LIKE AAU. THE TEAMS WHO ARE COLLECTING THE MOST TALENT ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CUTTING DOWN THE NETS.

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We are now into the "era of the KHS-AAU." With the current mindset of kids and their parents wanting to do whatever they want, whenever they want, the KHSAA(U) has the impossible and thankless job of trying to police every attempt to circumvent the basic statutes of residency and participation at a single school. The whole thing is corrupt, which mostly is a character issue of our current sports culture. Not to mix metaphors and sports, but it may be time for the KHSAA to quick-kick and quit trying.

IT MAY BE TIME TO RELENT AND ALLOW OPEN ENROLLMENT AND MAKE IT JUST LIKE AAU. PEOPLE ARE IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WHEN THEY DO NOT ADMIT THAT THE CURRENT CLIMATE IS STAKED ON THE ACCUMULATION OF TALENT, WHICH IS JUST LIKE AAU. THE TEAMS WHO ARE COLLECTING THE MOST TALENT ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CUTTING DOWN THE NETS.

 

Hmmm.....is that what last year's State Championship team did? Stack the talent in their favor?

Indiana has what you're suggesting and it seems to be working for them.

I guess I am just old school and don't like the way things are now!

Kids can transfer schools for academics...or different arts programs....but when a kid leaves for sports everyone gets upset. I don't understand the double standard...some kids ticket to college education is academic success...some in the arts....but some are through athletics. I cannot fault a kid/parent for wanting to better their chances of securing partial or full rides to college through sports.

 

Yes...a lot of the "recruiting" process takes place through summer ball for D1 and D2 players but the high school program takes a vital role in developing those kids to the point where they are attractive to those schools. Also, your lower level schools (NAIA and D3 schools) will recruit through the high schools. Several kids fall short of the D1 or D2 label and simply need to be in a better situation at the high school level to get noticed.

 

The bottom line is that some places do this better then others, and I find it hard to blame kids and parents for wanting to better their situation.

Did Holy Cross do that?

Did Holy Cross do that?

 

No I don't believe they did. I was being sarcastic. :thumb:

Kids can transfer schools for academics...or different arts programs....but when a kid leaves for sports everyone gets upset. I don't understand the double standard...some kids ticket to college education is academic success...some in the arts....but some are through athletics. I cannot fault a kid/parent for wanting to better their chances of securing partial or full rides to college through sports.

 

Yes...a lot of the "recruiting" process takes place through summer ball for D1 and D2 players but the high school program takes a vital role in developing those kids to the point where they are attractive to those schools. Also, your lower level schools (NAIA and D3 schools) will recruit through the high schools. Several kids fall short of the D1 or D2 label and simply need to be in a better situation at the high school level to get noticed.

 

The bottom line is that some places do this better then others, and I find it hard to blame kids and parents for wanting to better their situation.

 

This would be a good topic of a new thread. It's been discussed many times before, but what the heck our politicians bring things up over and over again until they get the desired result. Might as well hash this out again.

Recruiting kids at the HS level has been going on for years but not to the level we are seeing now. It's unfortunate that winning is the most important thing for the coaches ego's and they are willing to alienate the kids who genuinely want to go to a particular school for reasons other than just sports.

Interesting, I heard some trinity alumni get upset every year because their son won't get an opportunity to play at Trinity because of the "recruiting" even though the kids are catholic and have loved the school for years. So much that some of those kids are going to St X. Not having one there I can't speak first hand however.

There are more nets being cut down than the one you mentioned, districts and regions are mostly the ones I had in mind, and for more years than just the past season. Not to get personal, Pass, but you needn't look very far to find evidence of similar things at the school that you follow closely.

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Rumor has it that the kid from CAL switched to Catholicism and went to Mercy.

 

:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

 

Apparently, there has been an epiphany! "The scales were removed from their eyes!"

We are now into the "era of the KHS-AAU." With the current mindset of kids and their parents wanting to do whatever they want, whenever they want, the KHSAA(U) has the impossible and thankless job of trying to police every attempt to circumvent the basic statutes of residency and participation at a single school. The whole thing is corrupt, which mostly is a character issue of our current sports culture. Not to mix metaphors and sports, but it may be time for the KHSAA to quick-kick and quit trying.

IT MAY BE TIME TO RELENT AND ALLOW OPEN ENROLLMENT AND MAKE IT JUST LIKE AAU. PEOPLE ARE IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WHEN THEY DO NOT ADMIT THAT THE CURRENT CLIMATE IS STAKED ON THE ACCUMULATION OF TALENT, WHICH IS JUST LIKE AAU. THE TEAMS WHO ARE COLLECTING THE MOST TALENT ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CUTTING DOWN THE NETS.

It seems tacky to respond to one's own comment, but to elaborate further ...

 

The "privates" are the ones who first jump out to me as circumventors of the rules that have a great advantage in "accumulating talent." But, realistically, these schools are "in business" to provide a spiritual school experience and alternative to the public schools. Hence, they have to fill their seats and find students (notice I did NOT say athletes.)

 

However, for the public schools to cry "foul" when they themselves do the same thing is highly hypocritical. As a result, the KHSAA has an impossible job, and it may be time, and it very much sickens me to even say this, to go the open enrollment route. The cheating and circumvention is rampant, seemingly more than ever before - and involving a number of sports. How tragic, but real. 'Nough said.

Well stated Retropop! The privates have to find students to fill the seats, whereas, the publics simply want to keep them filled. Don't know if open enrollment is the absolute way to go--may need to find a plausible medium. I've seen public school coaches ridicule private school coaches for obtaining kids as if he/she 'owned' them and visa versa. Educational opportunities are about choices, not ownership. It is the choice of the player and/or parents to make...not us.

It seems tacky to respond to one's own comment, but to elaborate further ...

 

The "privates" are the ones who first jump out to me as circumventors of the rules that have a great advantage in "accumulating talent." But, realistically, these schools are "in business" to provide a spiritual school experience and alternative to the public schools. Hence, they have to fill their seats and find students (notice I did NOT say athletes.)

 

However, for the public schools to cry "foul" when they themselves do the same thing is highly hypocritical. As a result, the KHSAA has an impossible job, and it may be time, and it very much sickens me to even say this, to go the open enrollment route. The cheating and circumvention is rampant, seemingly more than ever before - and involving a number of sports. How tragic, but real. 'Nough said.

 

Wouldn't bother me at all. Level the playing field.

There are more nets being cut down than the one you mentioned, districts and regions are mostly the ones I had in mind, and for more years than just the past season. Not to get personal, Pass, but you needn't look very far to find evidence of similar things at the school that you follow closely.

 

I won't be naïve and say it doesn't go on, but I'm not privy to it if it is. I think it goes on in all sports at ALL schools regardless of public or private.