Easy to measure how much EToh in a 12 oz bottle of beer -- how do know how much active incredient is in 1 joint ? Any honest pot smoker will tell you there is a big difference from grower to grower .

Easy to measure how much EToh in a 12 oz bottle of beer -- how do know how much active incredient is in 1 joint ? Any honest pot smoker will tell you there is a big difference from grower to grower .

 

They shouldnt try to measure per joint. They should just measure thc levels. Just like a Natty light doesn't have the same alcohol content as a mikes hard lemonade, or a shot of bourbon.

How are people who are driving under the influence of something like prescription drugs dealt with? I'm assuming they'd be given a field sobriety test and the officer would have some evidence of impaired driving (weaving, crossing the lines, delayed reactions, etc.). Is that inadequate here?

 

Drug Recognition Experts. Tough class. I am not sure how prevalent the training is for it today.

 

And for the most part you always have to have bad driving. I really don't want to get into a big debate on this one.

PBT's aren't but Breathalyzers are...same with this new technology from my under standing. Portable test would be like PBT and only be a tool while a more precise test would have to be completed later like a Breathalyzer.

 

From the link...In Washington state and Colorado, drivers can be charged with DUI if they have five nanograms or more of THC in their blood.

So it looks like levels have been determined in at least two states.

 

The difference is both PBTs and Breathalyzers give an "exact" reading/amount of alcohol in someone's system at a point in time and that reading/amount has a direct relationship with impairment.

 

THC levels in the body do not have a direct relationship with impairment. It may mean you are under the influence and it may mean you partied hard last weekend and are not impaired at all.

I'm not sure if there are any KSP members or attorneys on here that can verify this, but I believe the KSP tested a similar breathalizer years ago. It tested for thc in saliva that entered the breathalizer as you blew into it. The person that told me about it is an attorney and said it would never fly, that it would be too hard to prove its time related accuracy in court. This was 10+ years ago, so maybe the technology has changed.

 

I agree.

 

I am sure as technology improves we will be able to measure numerous factors related to THC that give us a more accurate picture but to my knowledge nothing like that exists right now.

This is my entire argument against. And why I'm opposed.

 

Would you explain that in more detail? There is more than one issue being discussed in this thread.

 

I agree.

 

I am sure as technology improves we will be able to measure numerous factors related to THC that give us a more accurate picture but to my knowledge nothing like that exists right now.

 

Agreed. As technology improves, they will probably find a way to get a fairly accurate reading from ones saliva, but at this time I don't think they have anything that would hold up in court.

 

That said, with the legalization boom, I'm sure its being worked on and they will eventually find a way to make such tests accurate.

 

As of right now, in my mind a field sobriety test should work. If a person can't pass that, then they should be arrested, then leave it up to the courts to decide. If they do pass a field sobriety test leave them alone.

Not going to start another thread; I'll just piggyback this one. No surprise that Bill Walton backs legalizing.

 

Bill Walton rants about America's marijuana policies on air - SBNation.com

 

Bill Walton stopped to talk America's drug policies Wednesday night while on the call of Washington vs. Oregon.

 

Sparked by the recent dismissal of Washington star Robert Upshaw, a player who had failed drug tests earlier in his college career, Walton spoke about both the NCAA rules as well as the nation's laws. "There are people languishing in jails for things that are legal," Walton said, calling the War on Drugs "an absolute failure" and asking for President Obama to do something about it.

 

Walton -- a child of the 60's and 70's who religiously followed the Grateful Dead on tour, loves to wear tie dye, owns a tepee, and doesn't shower indoors -- is somewhat of a stereotypical hippie, but isn't exactly open to talk about his (hypothetical) drug use on air. He did kinda joke about marijuana -- although without mentioning it by name -- with Jay Bilas during an Oregon game a few weeks ago.

Oscar might have been less of a grouch if weed was legal back then. On the other hand, sounds like even with it he was still a horse's patootie. But anyway.