Only took four posts for it to be her fault...

 

So who's fault would it be if she's not getting out of the road?

 

It's been alluded to several times on here that cops are "allowed" to use excessive force when they feel threatened... Where was the threat? She wasn't resisting arrest by sitting in her car... So that idea is out the window. Was there a car behind her in traffic? If not, her sitting at the green light is pretty irrelevant. When she said she would move, she apparently couldn't because there were cops in front of her, so then she gets yanked out of the car.

 

How do you know she didn't resist when they went to remove her?

Something I don't think people posting are realizing: the Supreme Court has both stated and refused to revisit decisions questioning their rulings on people having a right to record police officers, especially if it's in a situation where they are filming something like she's accused of filming here. If the officers are telling her to move because they don't want her recording, guess who the one being unlawful is? Same thing that brought the Supreme Court ruling was an attorney in Boston, filming someone else getting roughed up during an arrest who was hit with some bogus charge for "interfering".

 

I see plenty of comments that lead me to believe that people think police officers know more about the law than Supreme Court Justices, so I digress, but let's just say that a Judge probably looks at the tape, considers that the allegations of attempting to delete the footage, etc. and that the "she was disrupting the flow of traffic, we were keeping safety and order telling her to move" probably isn't going to get very far.

 

Also, to the comments on the lawsuit, I'd imagine that's a pretty fair amount to ask for given the circumstances.

 

To everyone saying she's at fault and asked this on herself, try thinking of it like this: maybe she wouldn't have been filming if a man in handcuffs weren't being beaten in front of her. Obviously the DA doesn't think she's guilty of anything, the charges were immediately dropped.

 

The city of Baltimore has some hugely systemic problems with police brutality that city leaders are divided on (i.e., whether to bring in oversight, etc.), so this incident surprises me none at all.

 

She doesn't have the right to block traffic just to record. She doesn't have the right to ignore lawful commands to move just to record.

 

Fair point. I think it's pretty safe to say that's what's happened here given what's already happened, and I'd say the same if it were flipped. Doesn't mean guilt, but it doesn't look good at all either.

 

I guess I disagree. I'll wait to hear more. Didn't see any beating on film...convenient that the recording started after said beating ended right?

So who's fault would it be if she's not getting out of the road?

 

Not getting out of the road isn't grounds for being dragged out of your car.

How do you know she didn't resist when they went to remove her?

 

I said "sitting in her car." She was in her car when they started trying to pull her out of it....

She doesn't have the right to block traffic just to record. She doesn't have the right to ignore lawful commands to move just to record.

 

How do you know she was blocking traffic? Just because the light may have been green doesn't mean there was somebody behind her.

 

Not getting out of the road isn't grounds for being dragged out of your car.

 

It absolutely is if you are not moving. So if I go park in the middle of a busy street recording and when police get there I tell then I have a right to record and I don't move...You think they won't pull me out of that car?

 

How do you know she was blocking traffic? Just because the light may have been green doesn't mean there was somebody behind her.

 

That's irrelevant. The street ain't for parking. It's for driving.

 

And I didn't say she was.

It absolutely is if you are not moving. So if I go park in the middle of a busy street recording and when police get there I tell then I have a right to record and I don't move...You think they won't pull me out of that car?

 

No, it absolutely isn't. :lol2:

 

If you think that kind of force is necessary for type of violation, that mentality is a prime example of the issues our country is facing.

 

No, it absolutely isn't. :lol2:

 

If you think that kind of force is necessary for type of violation, that mentality is a prime example of the issues our country is facing.

 

So we should just let people do what they want? If she's not moving how else should they get her to move? Stand there for hours begging?

So we should just let people do what they want? If she's not moving how else should they get her to move? Stand there for hours begging?

 

So it's either drag her out of the car with multiple officers, or stand there and do nothing? Those are the only options? That escalated FAR quicker than it should have. How about issuing her a traffic citation first?

No, it absolutely isn't. :lol2:

 

If you think that kind of force is necessary for type of violation, that mentality is a prime example of the issues our country is facing.

 

Another example of the issues we are facing is that someone deems it necessary to stop in the middle of the road and record officer's arresting someone. Two way street.

 

I'm done arguing about force because unless we have video with audio, we don't know what is right and what isn't.

Another example of the issues we are facing is that someone deems it necessary to stop in the middle of the road and record officer's arresting someone. Two way street.

 

I'm done arguing about force because unless we have video with audio, we don't know what is right and what isn't.

 

Yep. Dumb on her part.

 

Still doesn't justify it.

 

Yep. Dumb on her part.

 

Still doesn't justify it.

 

Once you refuse to get out, the police legally can remove you.

 

Btw, so no one gets upset, I don't necessarily support the police here. I just refuse to automatically assume they were completely wrong. I've seen too many peple fooled before by "victims". *See Danielle Watts incident.