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But can you use it as a punt? I don't know that you can. Seems wrong. Would definitely be returnable in the college game but I don't know that you could advance the ball as the kicking team, using it as a punt.

You'd be surprised how many high schools around the county do not punt, they only attempt FG's. It is a common practice because it is easier to find a player that kick a ball off a tee then it is get a quality punter. How many high school punts have you seen for 20 yards net?

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Did a game one night when the coach got three consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties, but I don't remember how many yards still remained to be gained before he got ticked off.

You'd be surprised how many high schools around the county do not punt, they only attempt FG's. It is a common practice because it is easier to find a player that kick a ball off a tee then it is get a quality punter. How many high school punts have you seen for 20 yards net?

 

That's the worst rule I've ever heard of. That's rule is as bad as the free kick after a fair catch rule.

That's the worst rule I've ever heard of. That's rule is as bad as the free kick after a fair catch rule.

Why is it a bad rule? Without that rule Auburn doesn't beat Bama last year

That's the worst rule I've ever heard of. That's rule is as bad as the free kick after a fair catch rule.

If I'm not mistaken, there was a coach that wrote a book, or advocated "never punting in high school football", and the basis for his position was attempting field goals instead of punting and going for it on 4th down after you reached a certain position on the field because the 4th down conversion rate for high school was so good.

If I'm not mistaken, there was a coach that wrote a book, or advocated "never punting in high school football", and the basis for his position was attempting field goals instead of punting and going for it on 4th down after you reached a certain position on the field because the 4th down conversion rate for high school was so good.

Here's a link to read: John T. Reed's place-kick ‘punt’

If I'm not mistaken, there was a coach that wrote a book, or advocated "never punting in high school football", and the basis for his position was attempting field goals instead of punting and going for it on 4th down after you reached a certain position on the field because the 4th down conversion rate for high school was so good.

 

I don't mind the strategy of never punting, always onside kicking, etc. but to be able to lineup and miss a FG and then not be penalized at the spot of the kick when the ball doesn't make it to the end zone is crazy.

I don't mind the strategy of never punting, always onside kicking, etc. but to be able to lineup and miss a FG and then not be penalized at the spot of the kick when the ball doesn't make it to the end zone is crazy.

It has to do with what is allowed. On 4th down (or prior) the offense is allowed a "scrimmage kick", "scrimmage kick" is a "punt", "drop kick" or "place kick". It's really not a "field goal" attempt, it is just an acceptable "scrimmage kick" to change possession.

It has to do with what is allowed. On 4th down (or prior) the offense is allowed a "scrimmage kick", "scrimmage kick" is a "punt", "drop kick" or "place kick". It's really not a "field goal" attempt, it is just an acceptable "scrimmage kick" to change possession.

 

Seems like too much of an advantage on a true FG attempt. In theory you could attempt a 50 yard FG, the kicker could miss it horribly and you'd could pin the opposing team inside the 10 if the kick doesn't go in the end zone.

Seems like too much of an advantage on a true FG attempt. In theory you could attempt a 50 yard FG, the kicker could miss it horribly and you'd could pin the opposing team inside the 10 if the kick doesn't go in the end zone.

You can.

 

You can attempt a 99 yard field goal and angle it out of bounds and not give a team a chance at return. It's legal you just don't see many in our area do it. To be honest I'm surprised more coaches in the state don't do it.

Seems like too much of an advantage on a true FG attempt. In theory you could attempt a 50 yard FG, the kicker could miss it horribly and you'd could pin the opposing team inside the 10 if the kick doesn't go in the end zone.

You could pin them but it is returnable. It is much harder to cover a kick from that type of set up

But you don't have to line up like a normal field goal.Put the holder back a little deeper and spread your team out like a normal punt.i think the key to all of this is you have to have a good long snap.

But you don't have to line up like a normal field goal.Put the holder back a little deeper and spread your team out like a normal punt.i think the key to all of this is you have to have a good long snap.

 

I don't think you could protect a FG attempt out of a punt formation. Shortened edge would be trouble. Operation time would have to be perfect.

I don't think you could protect a FG attempt out of a punt formation. Shortened edge would be trouble. Operation time would have to be perfect.

It actually takes longer to execute a punt then it does a place kick. If you can get a punt off out of the spread, you can get a place kick off. Not to mention, just like a punt, the defense has to cover all eligible receivers and gunners or you just fake the kick like you would if they didn't cover them on a punt.

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