No person has said otherwise, but this issue highlights the problem. You take a charged up, overly emotional teenager that puts their heart in to a game and loses, volatile things are bound to happen. Kids cuss, spike balls, want to punch something, etc. after losing, it is not best to throw hundreds of people in their only sanctuary rooting against everything they are. You are pouring gasoline on to a fire.

 

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment, and if we want to ban court storming tomorrow, I'm good with it. However, let's not pretend that a dude whizzing a ball at an opponent after the final horn is something that happens with any regularity. This was an isolated and bizarre incident, let's not knee-jerk to solve a situation that is clearly an aberration.

The player should have never thrown the ball but with that said there is no brawl if fans stay off the floor. The players would have been separated and it would have been over.

The player should have never thrown the ball but with that said there is no brawl if fans stay off the floor. The players would have been separated and it would have been over.

 

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

I could argue, without much trouble, that a lot more brawls and injuries have occurred at sporting events due to beer being sold at games than the occasional field / court storm. Maybe that should be our cause we sink our teeth into.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

I could argue, without much trouble, that a lot more brawls and injuries have occurred at sporting events due to beer being sold at games than the occasional field / court storm. Maybe that should be our cause we sink our teeth into.

 

As some analysts have pointed out the physical part of the confrontation was not between the two teams. It was between the NMSU players and the fans that were on the court. The issue here is not what causes more injuries at sporting events, even one injury caused by storming the court is too many. The visiting team at sporting events should be afforded safe passage to their locker room before anyone that does not belong there sets foot on the court, period. End of discussion.

As some analysts have pointed out the physical part of the confrontation was not between the two teams. It was between the NMSU players and the fans that were on the court. The issue here is not what causes more injuries at sporting events, even one injury caused by storming the court is too many. The visiting team at sporting events should be afforded safe passage to their locker room before anyone that does not belong there sets foot on the court, period. End of discussion.

The visiting team incited the situation by throwing a ball at an opponent after the horn. The teammates that got hit by fans should thank #12 for his lack of self control and for elevating the situation.

 

Their "safe passage" was deterred by their own actions.

 

There is a reason #12 has been suspended and yet everyone keeps knee-jerking back to the crowd. I love how we have threads active about both kids don't go to games anymore, yet trying to tell college kids how to celebrate big wins when they do show up.

 

To ignore the fact that 99% of the time kids storming the court doesn't result in a brawl seems funny. The variable here is #12, but lets ignore that and keep grand-standing against kids on the court.

 

Sorry I chose to ignore your "end of discussion" edict, I'll try and do better.

Its real simple, if your not staff or part of the game or operations, no need to be on the floor. If you go on the floor, arrest and prosecution, if need be physically force will be used.

 

Heck, let's just shoot them.

 

Student tickets will continue to be much easier to come by, which will change the atmosphere at games, which will impact home court advantage, which will get coaches involved. If you guys don't think these topics have been discussed on campuses for over a decade, you're being naive.

It is a volatile situation in any court storming scenario. The only santctuary of sorts the visiting has is invaded by Black Friday shoppers. When something bad does happen we are all going to sit around and say how stupid it was nothing was done sooner to prevent it.

The visiting team incited the situation by throwing a ball at an opponent after the horn. The teammates that got hit by fans should thank #12 for his lack of self control and for elevating the situation.

 

Their "safe passage" was deterred by their own actions.

 

There is a reason #12 has been suspended and yet everyone keeps knee-jerking back to the crowd. I love how we have threads active about both kids don't go to games anymore, yet trying to tell college kids how to celebrate big wins when they do show up.

 

To ignore the fact that 99% of the time kids storming the court doesn't result in a brawl seems funny. The variable here is #12, but lets ignore that and keep grand-standing against kids on the court.

 

Sorry I chose to ignore your "end of discussion" edict, I'll try and do better.

 

Throwing a basketball does not give the crowd the green light to assault anyone. If one of the players had been hit during the scrum and crushed a fan afterwards he'd likely be arrested. #12 was already being escorted off the court by his coaches and the two teams were not scuffling. No fans on the court, no melee. I'll say it again: Your ticket does not give you permission to be on the playing surface. Any actions by the players or coaching staff that occur on that playing surface do not concern the fans nor give them the right to intervene. If there is an altercation between the teams, coaches or support personnel that should be handled by game officials, security staff and the police--not the fans. The visiting team should be afforded safe passage to their locker room, no matter how long it takes. If they want to allow fans on the court after the visitors have been able to leave the floor then have it.

 

There is never a reason for a fan to go onto the court to confront a player. When that happens it is no longer kids being kids. I never said not to let the students interact with their team, just that the visiting team must be given safe conduct to their locker room first, do you disagree with that too?

 

I wasn't going to respond but your continual condescending, smarmy demeanor made it impossible to ignore.

the visiting team must be given safe conduct to their locker room first, do you disagree with that too?

 

No, I 100% agree with you on that. I have no reason to believe it wouldn't have been the case had #12 not reacted the way he had at the dude in the white jersey.

 

You say "end of discussion" to me (quoting my post) and my comment was condescending? Okay.

 

Let me ask this, if this was so cut and dried, why do more schools not work to prevent it?

No, I 100% agree with you on that. I have no reason to believe it wouldn't have been the case had #12 not reacted the way he had at the dude in the white jersey.

 

You say "end of discussion" to me (quoting my post) and my comment was condescending? Okay.

 

Let me ask this, if this was so cut and dried, why do more schools not work to prevent it?

 

The end of discussion was meant to mean that there is absolutely zero reason that the visiting team should not get safe conduct to their dressing room. What happens on the court belongs there and should be settled by the people that have business being on the floor. It doesn't matter how a player acts the team should be afforded safe conduct to their locker room, that should not be up for discussion.

 

Let me ask this, if this was so cut and dried, why do more schools not work to prevent it?

Simple, nothing tragic has happened yet. It is like in communities where a dangerous intersection is in place, but nothing is ever done about it until someone is seriously injured or killed. We are a reactive society. Take a guy like Boogie, he would have started clearing house, no doubt :lol2: