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Did the Police Cross the Legal Line?

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If an announced checkopint keeps one person from driving and drinking that night how is it pointless?

 

I didn't say it keeps people from drinking, maybe they just take a different road to wherever they are going.

 

I can't stand when people drink and drive and I'm all for a severe punishment and everything but I don't like how checkpoints are often done. I know of the checkpoints I've been held up in they don't check every vehicle so what's the point if they are gonna only half do it?

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So if cops often do checkpoints as some say, then why do they not just routinely do door to door stops and check on people at home? Not search their house but just stop by, knock on the door and see what the person is doing?

 

I've not been stopped at a checkpoint or even seen one in over 2 years.

 

There are a lot of people in this country. I'd say more than a few haven't been stopped.

 

There are a lot of people in this country. I'd say more than a few haven't been stopped.

 

Maybe so but I live in Pike Co, and close to US 23 which is a pretty deadly road. I use to see checkpoints every now mad then but they've stopped.

 

Maybe so but I live in Pike Co, and close to US 23 which is a pretty deadly road. I use to see checkpoints every now mad then but they've stopped.

 

I've never driven through one either. What's your point?

 

I've never driven through one either. What's your point?

 

That this area would be a pretty good place to have a checkpoint set up.

 

That this area would be a pretty good place to have a checkpoint set up.

 

Okay.

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So do you stop at checkpoints, or do you go out of your way to avoid them?

 

Why? Tell me how it applies.

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If an announced checkopint keeps one person from driving and drinking that night how is it pointless?

 

If an illegal search of a house results in crack cocaine being confiscated and not sold to kids how is it pointless?

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I think there is a huge difference in what you are saying.

 

Police can't search your vehicle without cause at a checkpoint.

 

They can pull you over without cause (ie a checkpoint) and then arrest you for being drunk.

 

My analogy is the same thing with a different method of illegal search and a different crime.

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"It's worth pulling people over without cause or entering their house without cause because stopping (fill in the blank) is good for society , our kids, and our neighborhoods."

 

For those that are cool with checkpoints tell me which felony crime you would NOT put in the statement above and then tell me why it's not to the level of drunk driving.

 

Why? Tell me how it applies.

 

According to you it's unconstitutional. You compare it to the police searching your home for bombs or drugs. I have no problem with a checkpoint, but would resist a home search. I'm wondering if you stop at them, or avoid them since you oppose them.

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According to you it's unconstitutional. You compare it to the police searching your home for bombs or drugs. I have no problem with a checkpoint, but would resist a home search. I'm wondering if you stop at them, or avoid them since you oppose them.

 

Completely immaterial to the debate.

 

Completely immaterial to the debate.

 

Just wondered if you were a man of conviction or all talk.

 

They can pull you over without cause (ie a checkpoint) and then arrest you for being drunk.

 

My analogy is the same thing with a different method of illegal search and a different crime.

 

It's not illegal and they're not pulling one person over. They're stopping and checking everyone on a public road, not in their private residence.

 

To pull one person over on a traffic stop an officer needs PC.

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