June 23, 201313 yr What did I manipulate ? A respected organization released numbers that said 41% of small businesses froze hiring do to Obamacare. Pretty straight forward. If you don't like the sample size its your choice . But the sample size is consistent with many scientific polls used daily. I would love to debate anytime how a single payer system would be bad for our way of life. Government control over large sector of the economy can not happen in a society that claims to be free. Government control is the opposite of freedom. YOU didn't manipulate anything. What I was pointing out, is the study you referred to is a small sample size, and presented in a misleading way. Yes, 41% of the 608 (out of 27 million) small business say they are cutting back growth/freezing hiring. But it also says 9% say the measure is going to be good for business and another 39% say it will have no effect. Adding those two numbers together, and 48% (pretty close to half) of the business don't see a problem with the measure. Present it the way I just did, this has a totally different (and more realistic...the numbers don't lie;)) perspective that doesn't support the argument the author is trying to make. It's somebody twisting the results to support his side of the story. You seriously don't see how misleading the way this info was presented??
June 23, 201313 yr Author YOU didn't manipulate anything. What I was pointing out, is the study you referred to is a small sample size, and presented in a misleading way. Yes, 41% of the 608 (out of 27 million) small business say they are cutting back growth/freezing hiring. But it also says 9% say the measure is going to be good for business and another 39% say it will have no effect. Adding those two numbers together, and 48% (pretty close to half) of the business don't see a problem with the measure. Present it the way I just did, this has a totally different (and more realistic...the numbers don't lie;)) perspective that doesn't support the argument the author is trying to make. It's somebody twisting the results to support his side of the story. You seriously don't see how misleading the way this info was presented?? So your point is its good that only 9% of small businesses think obamacare is a positive ? Haha ! Also that less than half think it will no impact ? Then no the very numbers you quote prove the authors point. You are the one manipulating numbers. I don't see how people aren't worried that less than 10% of businesses think this law will mean positive things for business. Where as 90% don't or at best think no impact . But since 41% say they FROZE hiring that is bad. You can nitpick all you want but that is a huge number.
June 23, 201313 yr So your point is its good that only 9% of small businesses think obamacare is a positive ? Haha ! Also that less than half think it will no impact ? Then no the very numbers you quote prove the authors point. You are the one manipulating numbers. I don't see how people aren't worried that less than 10% of businesses think this law will mean positive things for business. Where as 90% don't or at best think no impact . But since 41% say they FROZE hiring that is bad. You can nitpick all you want but that is a huge number. See, there is another way to spin the number ;-). But yes, but while only 9% thinking it's positive is low, I don't think folks thinking no impact at all is a bad thing. That means that group is still moving forward, business as usual, this measure isn't bothering them at all. I take that as a positive message, and if you look at the numbers, positive growth. And again, I'd love to see a larger sample. This poll surveys only 608 business. My statistics classes from way back tell me you need a sample size of about 66,000 in order to be 99% positive the results are accurate. I wouldn't put much stock into the results of this poll.
June 23, 201313 yr Author See, there is another way to spin the number ;-). But yes, but while only 9% thinking it's positive is low, I don't think folks thinking no impact at all is a bad thing. That means that group is still moving forward, business as usual, this measure isn't bothering them at all. I take that as a positive message, and if you look at the numbers, positive growth. And again, I'd love to see a larger sample. This poll surveys only 608 business. My statistics classes from way back tell me you need a sample size of about 66,000 in order to be 99% positive the results are accurate. I wouldn't put much stock into the results of this poll. What did you base 66k on?
June 24, 201313 yr Bash -- Businesses since the Crash of '08 have been hoarding cash. So how does one distinguish between continuation of this parsimonious trend and suddenly blaming the Affordable Health Care Act? lol...This is :puke:
June 26, 201313 yr It is a waste of time arguing with a liberal democrat...why let facts cloud what they want to do? What is Obamacare going to do to LOWER healthcare costs? It is just shifting the cost burden isn't it?
July 3, 201313 yr Obama is delaying a major part of implementing ObamaCare til after the 14 elections.. He does not want the Dems to lose even more votes. White House delays key element of health care law
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