Why is there not a bigger outrage and action taken by the rest of the Muslim world? They give tacit approval to the terrorist by for the most part sitting on their hands and doing very little. A few arrest are made but there has never been a full out assault on these radicals by the rest of the Muslim world, why is that?

Don't know the make up of his organization. What I am asking in a bigger scope what can be done about Radical Muslim terrorism.

 

Well that's a $1,000,000 question. Britain has had a very harsh reaction against Muslims immigrating there. Maybe worse that the US has. I suspect isolating groups and ghettoizing them only supplies ammo to the radicals.

 

I also think that there are a lot of factors in play regarding the religion and the people of the regions most associated with it. There was a time not terribly long ago where persons would be murdered based on their interpretation of the Christian faith. I tend to think that a lot of factors changed that (many centuries ago), namely widespread literacy, access to new viewpoints (especially through print), and cultural integration. I tend to think a lot of that is happening in the Muslim world just now. And I tend to think a lot of that has bred a violent rejection of it. So, my solution is to foster more education, interaction, and assimilation, rather than the reverse, as I think most people have the same desires in common, but varying ideologies foster violent tribalism against fulfilling those.

Why is there not a bigger outrage and action taken by the rest of the Muslim world? They give tacit approval to the terrorist by for the most part sitting on their hands and doing very little. A few arrest are made but there has never been a full out assault on these radicals by the rest of the Muslim world, why is that?

 

What do you mean? Are you saying Muslim countries aren't going after terrorists in their own countries? I don't think that's the case if so.

I agree 100% with what you said. But who is going to lead this? What country or leader is strong enough to push for the cultural integration that you are talking about. It seems as if all of the leaders in the middle east are as afraid of the radicals as anyone else and will not make any move to stop the violence.

What do you mean? Are you saying Muslim countries aren't going after terrorists in their own countries? I don't think that's the case if so.

Only in a few countries. I do question the voracity of their investigations and tracking down terrorist in most countries. Especially if the terror happens outside of their borders. If they commit a terrorist act inside the country then yes they probably do a good job at hunting for those that act against them. But how much effort is put into hunting down those behind a bombing in Tel Aviv or in Spain? How often are the people supplying the money to the terrorist ever caught?

I agree 100% with what you said. But who is going to lead this? What country or leader is strong enough to push for the cultural integration that you are talking about. It seems as if all of the leaders in the middle east are as afraid of the radicals as anyone else and will not make any move to stop the violence.

 

I think it is a much longer time-frame than we are expecting. I think there are a lot of rumblings currently in the MENA region of discontent with their status quo. I think the Arab Spring has been indicative of a thirst for self-governance. Granted, it has come with fundamentalists as well as the liberal types seeking power. But, democracy is not a game to be won by reactionaries in the end. For instance, maybe Morsi can win an election in Egypt, but I don't believe he will be able to sustain power over the long term without serious repression - the exact thing that sparked the rebellion to begin with. I think that over time pluralism and democracy will lead to more stable relations. I think violence is fostered by the absence of integration and information, not the other way around, and when these typically closed-off countries open up to the world that will be encouraged.

Only in a few countries. I do question the voracity of their investigations and tracking down terrorist in most countries. Especially if the terror happens outside of their borders. If they commit a terrorist act inside the country then yes they probably do a good job at hunting for those that act against them. But how much effort is put into hunting down those behind a bombing in Tel Aviv or in Spain? How often are the people supplying the money to the terrorist ever caught?

 

It definitely depends on the country. One, the US has invested a lot in encouraging countries to do this very thing (and in the case of Yemen and Pakistan the US has done it for them - which I disagree with). And two, some countries simply don't have the capacity to do it, which is a different issue all together, perhaps.

This is unfortunately not a problem that will be solved easily or quickly. Unfortunately many innocents on both sides will pay the ultimate price, for a rift as old as Isaac and Ishmael.

It definitely depends on the country. One, the US has invested a lot in encouraging countries to do this very thing (and in the case of Yemen and Pakistan the US has done it for them - which I disagree with). And two, some countries simply don't have the capacity to do it, which is a different issue all together, perhaps.

I would think that the Saudis, the richest and most influential country in the region would take a bigger past in this as well.

 

Yemen I believe needed the help of the US, and Pakistan either through corruption or out of fear refused to do very much that needed to be done.

This is unfortunately not a problem that will be solved easily or quickly. Unfortunately many innocents on both sides will pay the ultimate price, for a rift as old as Isaac and Ishmael.

 

I think it is a very long term thing. My constant pushback is that I fear short-term reactions against Muslims aren't going to foster violence going forward, especially in the way of turning modern or liberal Muslims against the US and allies. I think a lot of the Muslim violence has been reactionary in nature, but as the MENA region opens up and starts dealing with political diversity I wonder if we aren't being counterproductive. Certainly we need to sustain our level of security, but at the same time there are longer-term goals to keep in mind.

 

I would think that the Saudis, the richest and most influential country in the region would take a bigger past in this as well.

 

The Saudis are weird. Their oil wealth allows them a lot of autonomy from what I'm talking about. And the particular interpretation of Islam fostered there is considerably more regressive than elsewhere (largely, I would say because the country can restrict outside influences so forcefully). But, even Saudi has been forced to open up its culture to some degree (even women can ride bicycles there now!).

 

The statistics say it does not work for the British. The have a much higher assault and property crime rate and higher home invasion rate than the US. It is a myth that the unarmed Brits have low crime. The have less gun murders. But most other crimes are much higher per capita.

 

I'm not talking about statistics. I'm talking about psyches.