Final from the 35th championship.

 

CCH had a big lead. BW scored 6 late to get within 1. CCH held on.

 

Did CCH score 3 runs off of bunts?

Final from the 35th championship.

 

CCH had a big lead. BW scored 6 late to get within 1. CCH held on.

 

Did CCH score 3 runs off of bunts?

 

Yes and to make you happy Clyde, no errors!

Edited May 23, 201313 yr by Theoldguy

That is a lot of runs. I heard Beechwood had the bases loaded when the last out was made. Who pitched for each team? Did the coaches hold back pitchers for region versus letting teams get some at bats against a pitcher they might see in a regional game?

That is a lot of runs. I heard Beechwood had the bases loaded when the last out was made. Who pitched for each team? Did the coaches hold back pitchers for region versus letting teams get some at bats against a pitcher they might see in a regional game?

 

Beechwood top of the 7th inning

5 Hole (1-3) 1 out

6 Hole on a 2-2 count 1b hit, then was picked off 1st base (1-3-4) 2 outs

7 Hole walked on a 3-2 count, Stole Second Base

8 Hole pop out in foul territory (3) 3 outs.

 

Beechwood

Schmann (L)

Fieger

Stringer

Combs

 

CovCath

Ward (W)

Heppler (Sv)

 

I would say no as Suchanek threw vs. Holy Cross the day before and thus could not pitch and Fieger threw one inning vs. Holy Cross. Davis for CovCath went the distance for CovCath vs. Holmes thus he couldn't pitch but no I don't believe anyone was held back.

 

Slusher 2 run HR in the top of the 1st for BW just made it over the fence and (IMHO) was wind aided, as the CovCath CF came in a couple steps then drifted back and back and back.

 

Schreiver 2 run HR in the bottom of the 1st for CovCath was a rocket that was long gone wind or no wind. Was one of the harder hit HR I have seen in a while!

 

Beechwood 2-0-0-0-0-6-0--8

CovCath.....2-3-1-1-2-0----9

Fun game to watch (would have preferred a dull, 5 inning one). BW caught fire and scored 6 in one inning to bring it to 9-8.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Beechwood may have only had one error (just a juggled ball in the outfield that didn't allow a run.) It was a good clean game, even in a little bit of rain and mud.

 

Congrats to both teams.

What time did the game end ? Any issues with light?

About 7:30 ish.....Clyde you missed it. Have never seen the glow in the dark balls....I think they are new this year, but they do really glow a little making the ball easier to see.

 

CCH ordered the first batch this year and were able to put them in play last night.......

 

 

.....pretty sure they were created in Krump's Biology class using molecules extracted from the lightning bug and applied to the ball using the mucus of the common gound slug..............well worth every penny of the CCH tuition.

What time did the game end ? Any issues with light?

 

If BW had managed to tie it, getting in extra innings definitely would have been a problem IMO. It was around 8 when the game ended. The Tigers made it exciting in the end and were able to leave the field with their heads up. I really question Mullins not making more lineup changes in the BWs last at-bat.

 

OK, some woulda, coulda, shoulda here...

BW runner getting picked off in the 7th was a comeback killer. He's a great player and very fast base runner, but I have seen way too many base running errors from him this year. I can think of at least 5. You did your job and got on base. You simply cannot get picked off in that situation. I would blame the coaches, but it was clear in this one that it was not the coach. The batter was walked on the next pitch. Instead of 1st and 2nd with 1 out, we have guy on 1st with two outs. A world of difference in a 1 run game. Both strategy wise and emotionally for the pitcher.

 

I would say I would like to see a Re-match, but I really shouldn't want that. There's something about CCH that is Kryponite for BW. Of course, it might be nice to see a Payback in regionals like we have seen before.

 

Congrats to the Colonels.

 

Related comment...

There were Lightning stoppages in this one. What I don't understand is why the rule is in place. Clearly, UMPS, ADs and Coaches just follow the "letter of the law" and not the intent. During the Lightning stoppages, both teams were out of the Dugout socializing with the crowd and horsing around. About 10 minutes before play was allowed to resume, the Pitchers were on the mound warming up. While they seemed to enjoy it, at the beginning of the lightning/thunder stoppage, the Cov Cath players ran to the tarp and unfolded. I'm no expert, but 15 guys out in the middle of field in the pouring rain with lightning in the area holding onto a Wet Tarp is a recipe for disaster.

 

I think the officials involved simply want to say they followed the rule. If there is truly danger as the stoppage suggest, then these players should be sitting in the Dugout. If there isn't danger, then play ball!

Edited May 23, 201313 yr by Old Sports Dad

Yes and to make you happy Clyde, no errors!

 

I always thought that a run scoring on a passed ball involved an error of some kind......

Interesting....learn something new every day.

Slusher 2 run HR in the top of the 1st for BW just made it over the fence and (IMHO) was wind aided, as the CovCath CF came in a couple steps then drifted back and back and back.

 

Hey, Give the kid his just dues. Brett Slusher is a 15 year old freshman going up against the Cov Cath hard throwing senior 17/18 year old ace. Slusher hit a fast ball to dead center field for his first varsity homerun. So if you have to down play his accomplishment to make all your blue colonel buddies feel better, then more power to you.

 

When you start down playing or making excuses to make your guys feat sound better, all it does is bring out your insecurity IMHO.

Can you tell me another high school in the state that plays 3 freshman and 2 sophomores, has a record of 27 and 7 and has accomplished what this team has? I don't think so. So when a young player does something worth mentioning congratulate him. Instead of my hit was better than your hit. Again this is IMHO. Go Tigers take state!

I always thought that a run scoring on a passed ball involved an error of some kind......

Interesting....learn something new every day.

 

Passed balls and wild pitches are considered to be part of the act of pitching rather than fielding. Thus they are kept as separate statistics and are not recorded as errors.

 

10.12 Errors

An error is a statistic charged against a fielder whose action has assisted the team on offense, as set forth in this Rule 10.12.

(a) The official scorer shall charge an error against any fielder:

(1) whose misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) prolongs the time at bat of a batter, prolongs the presence on the bases of a runner or permits a runner to advance one or more bases, unless, in the judgment of the official scorer, such fielder deliberately permits a foul fly to fall safe with a runner on third base before two are out in order that the runner on third shall not score after the catch;

Rule 10.12(a)(1) Comment: Slow handling of the ball that does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be construed as an error. For example, the official scorer shall not charge a fielder with an error if such fielder fields a ground ball cleanly but does not throw to first base in time to retire the batter. It is not necessary that the fielder touch the ball to be charged with an error. If a ground ball goes through a fielder's legs or a fly ball falls untouched and, in the scorer's judgment, the fielder could have handled the ball with ordinary effort, the official scorer shall charge such fielder with an error. For example, the official scorer shall charge an infielder with an error when a ground ball passes to either side of such infielder if, in the official scorer’s judgment, a fielder at that position making ordinary effort would have fielded such ground ball and retired a runner. The official scorer shall charge an outfielder with an error if such outfielder allows a fly ball to drop to the ground if, in the official scorer’s judgment, an outfielder at that position making ordinary effort would have caught such fly ball. If a throw is low, wide or high, or strikes the ground, and a runner reaches base who otherwise would have been put out by such throw, the official scorer shall charge the player making the throw with an error.

The official scorer shall not score mental mistakes or misjudgments as errors unless a specific rule prescribes otherwise. A fielder’s mental mistake that leads to a physical misplay—such as throwing the ball into the stands or rolling the ball to the pitcher’s mound, mistakenly believing there to be three outs, and thereby allowing a runner or runners to advance—shall not be considered a mental mistake for purposes of this rule and the official scorer shall charge a fielder committing such a mistake with an error. The official scorer shall not charge an error if the pitcher fails to cover first base on a play, thereby allowing a batter-runner to reach first base safely. The official scorer shall not charge an error to a fielder who incorrectly throws to the wrong base on a play.

The official scorer shall charge an error to a fielder who causes another fielder to misplay a ball—for example, by knocking the ball out of the other fielder’s glove. On such a play, when the official scorer charges an error to the interfering fielder, the official scorer shall not charge an error to the fielder with whom the other fielder interfered.

(2) when such fielder muffs a foul fly to prolong the time at bat of a batter, whether the batter subsequently reaches first base or is put out;

(3) when such fielder catches a thrown ball or a ground ball in time to put out the batter-runner and fails to tag first base or the batter-runner;

(4) when such fielder catches a thrown ball or a ground ball in time to put out any runner on a force play and fails to tag the base or the runner;

(5) whose wild throw permits a runner to reach a base safely, when in the scorer's judgment a good throw would have put out the runner, unless such wild throw is made attempting to prevent a stolen base;

(6) whose wild throw in attempting to prevent a runner's advance permits that runner or any other runner to advance one or more bases beyond the base such runner would have reached had the throw not been wild;

(7) whose throw takes an unnatural bounce, touches a base or the pitcher's plate, or touches a runner, a fielder or an umpire, thereby permitting any runner to advance; or

Rule 10.12(a)(7) Comment: The official scorer shall apply this rule even when it appears to be an injustice to a fielder whose throw was accurate. For example, the official scorer shall charge an error to an outfielder whose accurate throw to second base hits the base and caroms back into the outfield, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance, because every base advanced by a runner must be accounted for.

(8) whose failure to stop, or try to stop, an accurately thrown ball permits a runner to advance, so long as there was occasion for the throw. If such throw was made to second base, the official scorer shall determine whether it was the duty of the second baseman or the shortstop to stop the ball and shall charge an error to the negligent fielder.

Rule 10.12(a)(8) Comment: If, in the official scorer's judgment, there was no occasion for the throw, the official scorer shall charge an error to the fielder who threw the ball.

(b) The official scorer shall charge only one error on any wild throw, regardless of the number of bases advanced by one or more runners.

© When an umpire awards the batter or any runner or runners one or more bases because of interference or obstruction, the official scorer shall charge the fielder who committed the interference or obstruction with one error, no matter how many bases the batter, or runner or runners, may advance.

Rule 10.12© Comment: The official scorer shall not charge an error if obstruction does not change the play, in the opinion of the scorer.

(d) The official scorer shall not charge an error against:

(1) the catcher when the catcher, after receiving the pitch, makes a wild throw attempting to prevent a stolen base, unless the wild throw permits the stealing runner to advance one or more extra bases or permits any other runner to advance one or more bases;

(2) any fielder who makes a wild throw if in the scorer's judgment the runner would not have been put out with ordinary effort by a good throw, unless such wild throw permits any runner to advance beyond the base he would have reached had the throw not been wild;

(3) any fielder who makes a wild throw in attempting to complete a double play or triple play, unless such wild throw enables any runner to advance beyond the base such runner would have reached had the throw not been wild;

Rule 10.12(d) Comment: When a fielder muffs a thrown ball that, if held, would have completed a double play or triple play, the official scorer shall charge an error to the fielder who drops the ball and credit an assist to the fielder who made the throw.

(4) any fielder when, after fumbling a ground ball or dropping a batted ball that is in flight or a thrown ball, the fielder recovers the ball in time to force out a runner at any base; or

(5) any fielder when a wild pitch or passed ball is scored.

(e) The official scorer shall not charge an error when the batter is awarded first base on four called balls, when the batter is awarded first base when touched by a pitched ball, or when the batter reaches first base as the result of a wild pitch or passed ball.

Rule 10.12(e) Comment: See Rule 10.13 for additional scoring rules relating to wild pitches and passed balls.

(f) The official scorer shall not charge an error when a runner or runners advance as the result of a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk.

(1) When the fourth called ball is a wild pitch or a passed ball and as a result

(i) the batter-runner advances to a base beyond first base;

(ii) any runner forced to advance by the base on balls advances more than one base; or

(iii) any runner, not forced to advance, advances one or more bases, the official scorer shall score the base on balls and also the wild pitch or passed ball, as the case may be.

(2) When the catcher recovers the ball after a wild pitch or passed ball on the third strike, and throws out the batter-runner at first base, or tags out the batter-runner, but another runner or runners advance, the official scorer shall score the strikeout, the putout and assists, if any, and credit the advance of the other runner or runners on the play as a fielder’s choice.

Rule 10.12(f) Comment: See Rule 10.13 for additional scoring rules relating to wild pitches and passed balls.

10.13 Wild Pitches And Passed Balls

A wild pitch is defined in Rule 2.00 (Wild Pitch). A passed ball is a statistic charged against a catcher whose action has caused a runner or runners to advance, as set forth in this Rule 10.13.

(a) The official scorer shall charge a pitcher with a wild pitch when a legally delivered ball is so high, so wide or so low that the catcher does not stop and control the ball by ordinary effort, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. The official scorer shall charge a pitcher with a wild pitch when a legally delivered ball touches the ground or home plate before reaching the catcher and is not handled by the catcher, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. When the third strike is a wild pitch, permitting the batter to reach first base, the official scorer shall score a strikeout and a wild pitch.

(b) The official scorer shall charge a catcher with a passed ball when the catcher fails to hold or to control a legally pitched ball that should have been held or controlled with ordinary effort, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. When the third strike is a passed ball, permitting the batter to reach first base, the official scorer shall score a strikeout and a passed ball.

Rule 10.13 Comment: The official scorer shall not charge a wild pitch or passed ball if the defensive team makes an out before any runners advance. For example, if a pitch touches the ground and eludes the catcher with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the official scorer shall not charge the pitcher with a wild pitch. The official scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice. If a catcher drops a pitch, for example, with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the official scorer shall not charge the catcher with a passed ball. The official scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice. See Rules 10.07(a), 10.12(e) and 10.12(f) for additional scoring rules relating to wild pitches and passed balls.

Excellent as always TOG............

Slusher 2 run HR in the top of the 1st for BW just made it over the fence and (IMHO) was wind aided, as the CovCath CF came in a couple steps then drifted back and back and back.

 

Hey, Give the kid his just dues. Brett Slusher is a 15 year old freshman going up against the Cov Cath hard throwing senior 17/18 year old ace. Slusher hit a fast ball to dead center field for his first varsity homerun. So if you have to down play his accomplishment to make all your blue colonel buddies feel better, then more power to you.

 

When you start down playing or making excuses to make your guys feat sound better, all it does is bring out your insecurity IMHO.

Can you tell me another high school in the state that plays 3 freshman and 2 sophomores, has a record of 27 and 7 and has accomplished what this team has? I don't think so. So when a young player does something worth mentioning congratulate him. Instead of my hit was better than your hit. Again this is IMHO. Go Tigers take state!

 

So lets see what I said that made you unhappy.

 

I said the CovCath CF at first came in a step or two then drifted back and back and back. Indeed that happened.

 

I said the ball just cleared the fence. Indeed that happened.

 

I said IMHO the HR was wind aided. Note I said IMHO.

 

So it's okay for you to give your opinion but not for me?

 

BTW where is your love for Schreiver who crushed his HR ball?

TOG is all over the passed ball issue. I didn't read fully through his post where he supplied the wording.

 

A passed ball "could" have an impact on the determination of a run being earned or unearned.

Slusher 2 run HR in the top of the 1st for BW just made it over the fence and (IMHO) was wind aided, as the CovCath CF came in a couple steps then drifted back and back and back.

 

Hey, Give the kid his just dues. Brett Slusher is a 15 year old freshman going up against the Cov Cath hard throwing senior 17/18 year old ace. Slusher hit a fast ball to dead center field for his first varsity homerun. So if you have to down play his accomplishment to make all your blue colonel buddies feel better, then more power to you.

 

When you start down playing or making excuses to make your guys feat sound better, all it does is bring out your insecurity IMHO.

Can you tell me another high school in the state that plays 3 freshman and 2 sophomores, has a record of 27 and 7 and has accomplished what this team has? I don't think so. So when a young player does something worth mentioning congratulate him. Instead of my hit was better than your hit. Again this is IMHO. Go Tigers take state!

 

I am beginning to understand TOG a bit over the yrs and in no way shape or form would he attack or discount a young teenager, just not his style JMO

 

Besides, when I looked in the box score today it said HR not "barely made it HR" or "wind aided HR", just a great big HR.

 

A HR is a HR and a dinger is a dinger no matter how you look at it and it counts as a run for the guy that hits it and it also goes in the HR column and nobody can take that away from the young man. :thumb: