If he could've been easily subdued by a female and wasn't a serious threat then why were the police called? I mean the people at this establishment are familiar with the patient yet they felt he was a big enough threat that they needed the police. It's as though you're failing to recognize that angle of this story. Yes the police we semi aware of the situation they were entering, they were probably aware that the people that work with these folks are well trained and usually don't need their assistance. The fact that they were called in is telling IMO. Also you keep saying poor planning or they should've known more beforehand. You act like they were entering a contained environment where they had a plan already written up with back up plans already in writing as well. Come on man be real here.

 

When the police are called for a drunk and disorderly do they show up with their hands in their pockets? How about do they show up with their guns drawn? Lots of times the orderlies are low paid employees and are instructed to call the police.... Who are generally trained to deal withirrational people without shooting them in the head.

]When the police are called for a drunk and disorderly do they show up with their hands in their pockets? How about do they show up with their guns drawn?[/b] Lots of times the orderlies are low paid employees and are instructed to call the police.... Who are generally trained to deal withirrational people without shooting them in the head.

 

What does this have to do with any thing? You are making broad speculative statements and not taking in to account the fact that officers are trained to treat each situation as though it's not routine and to always be alert. Treating a call as a routine thing is how officers end up hurt or worse.

What does this have to do with any thing? You are making broad speculative statements and not taking in to account the fact that officers are trained to treat each situation as though it's not routine and to always be alert. Treating a call as a routine thing is how officers end up hurt or worse.

 

 

Look after this I'm done. If these guys had been called to a domestic disturbance, the guy had went off on them and been shot I would say nothing.

However, in this case TWO officers were called to a home for the mentally ill. The victim had been a resident there for 18 months. It isn't like he was concealing a shotgun. He was behaving aggressively and the orderlies asked for help. The ONLY reason that two officers with firearms should have had to use lethal force is if they did not respect the victim and allowed themselves to panic. Again, if this had been a drunk at home we would have been hearing about police brutality because they would have beaten him to a pulp. Instead these guys didn't do their jobs and someone died. SIMPLY THEY WERE UNPREPARED.

Look after this I'm done. If these guys had been called to a domestic disturbance, the guy had went off on them and been shot I would say nothing.

However, in this case TWO officers were called to a home for the mentally ill. The victim had been a resident there for 18 months. It isn't like he was concealing a shotgun. He was behaving aggressively and the orderlies asked for help. The ONLY reason that two officers with firearms should have had to use lethal force is if they did not respect the victim and allowed themselves to panic. Again, if this had been a drunk at home we would have been hearing about police brutality because they would have beaten him to a pulp. Instead these guys didn't do their jobs and someone died. SIMPLY THEY WERE UNPREPARED.

 

 

 

An investigation in to the shooting will happen, if they were in the wrong then they'll be disciplined accordingly. But you're not approaching this with an open mind or rational thoughts IMO but rather with how you think things should have been handled and not how they were. This isn't a perfect world, you're not always going to get the ideal out come, that doesn't mean things weren't done properly.

What does this have to do with any thing? You are making broad speculative statements and not taking in to account the fact that officers are trained to treat each situation as though it's not routine and to always be alert. Treating a call as a routine thing is how officers end up hurt or worse.

 

If they were ALERT a mentally ill person, IN A MENTAL INSTITUTI ON, with one arm and one leg would not have been able to have gotten the drop on two police officers and forced one of them to KILL him.

 

This is ALL because they treated as this as routine and panicked. If this had been a drunk 6'5" 230 lb guy in a bar he'd be in jail with a headache and a taser burn. They underestimated the handicapped guy. I'd love to get you in court with your argument.

HOUSTON—Houston Police Officer Matt Marin is a U.S. Navy Veteran and has received two Life Saving Awards in his five years on the force. Now, he’s the officer at the center of a deadly shooting that has captured national attention.

 

He was shot after waving around a silver ballpoint pen.

 

 

“I can’t possibly second guess an officer whenever I’ve had two days to think about what I would do in that exact same situation,” said Ray Hunt. “I have been told that this person was very, very mobile in that wheelchair, and I know it’s difficult for the public to understand that.”

 

Hunt knows he’s not going to entirely curb the controversy. However, he said he wants the public to know that Officer Marin knew very little when he was called to the disturbance at Healing Hands on Polk in downtown Houston.

 

“I don’t believe this officer had any idea that this was a home for people who had mental issues. This is a regular house and the call dropped as a disturbance call,” explained Hunt.

 

 

 

 

HPD stands behind officer who fatally shot wheelchair bound amputee | khou.com Houston

If they were ALERT a mentally ill person, IN A MENTAL INSTITUTI ON, with one arm and one leg would not have been able to have gotten the drop on two police officers and forced one of them to KILL him.

 

This is ALL because they treated as this as routine and panicked. If this had been a drunk 6'5" 230 lb guy in a bar he'd be in jail with a headache and a taser burn. They underestimated the handicapped guy. I'd love to get you in court with your argument.

 

Why so you could lose a case and look silly in the process. I guess we have different ideas of what constitutes as "having fun". Walk away.

Why so you could lose a case and look silly in the process. I guess we have different ideas of what constitutes as "having fun". Walk away.

 

No, I'd see you in jail and make sure the victim's family had everything you ever owned. G'night.

Some things I got out of this article.

 

 

It wasn't a magic marker like AJG said. It was a ball point pen, if this article has its facts right.

 

The officer possibly didn't even know it was a mentally ill person or a home for the mentally ill.

 

Police aren't trained to respond with a taser when a deadly weapon is believed to be involved.

So tell me again how a house for the mentally ill wasn't marked. Did they kick in the door and go to town??? It had been there for at least 18 months. Because the victim had been there that long and had been a problem for that

 

He was not a rookie. He had been an officer for at least 5 years.

long but the officers were caught by suprise.... Right... Not very likely. Look I respect the heck out of the police but there is a limit and someone, whether it was dispatch or the officers involved is responsible for an unnecessary death.

So tell me again how a house for the mentally ill wasn't marked. Did they kick in the door and go to town??? It had been there for at least 18 months. Because the victim had been there that long and had been a problem for that

 

He was not a rookie. He had been an officer for at least 5 years.

long but the officers were caught by suprise.... Right... Not very likely. Look I respect the heck out of the police but there is a limit and someone, whether it was dispatch or the officers involved is responsible for an unnecessary death.

 

Did you bother reading the article?

No, I'd see you in jail and make sure the victim's family had everything you ever owned. G'night.

 

 

What's sad is the fact that you believe that to be true.

So tell me again how a house for the mentally ill wasn't marked. Did they kick in the door and go to town??? It had been there for at least 18 months. Because the victim had been there that long and had been a problem for that

 

He was not a rookie. He had been an officer for at least 5 years.

long but the officers were caught by suprise.... Right... Not very likely. Look I respect the heck out of the police but there is a limit and someone, whether it was dispatch or the officers involved is responsible for an unnecessary death.

But not the people that dealt with this individual on a daily basis correct? Clearly someone else is to blame even though there is no proof to back up such a claim, ya that makes sense to me.:ohbrother:

I can't believe people are actually taking up for the police in this issue. The guy in the wheel chair had a pen, a stupid PEN. The police had no right to kill the guy in a WHEELCHAIR, it definitely could have been handled better. Am I mistaken or doesn't the police usually get info on the address prior to going in, or doesn't dispatch give them the info. For the cop to say he didn't know it was a home is stupid and doubtful to be true.

I can't believe people are actually taking up for the police in this issue. The guy in the wheel chair had a pen' date=' a stupid PEN. The police had no right to kill the guy in a WHEELCHAIR, it definitely could have been handled better. Am I mistaken or doesn't the police usually get info on the address prior to going in, or doesn't dispatch give them the info. For the cop to say he didn't know it was a home is stupid and doubtful to be true.[/quote']

 

Most here aren't defending anyone. Just saying its a little too soon to judge their actions. Many people see the headlines and assume the police were wrong. What's so bad about those here who choose not to automatically assume they did something wrong?