How old is the South Floyd building?

 

Wheelwright and McDowell consolidated in the fall of 1993. That makes South Floyd High School almost 20 years old. Allen Central's building is older, but not sure on a date. Probably some time in the late 70s/early 80s. I do believe, just from appearances, that Allen Central High School's building is larger than South Floyd.

I was under the impression that local attorney Eric C Conn was footing the bill, or a great portion of it, for the Betsy Layne turf project. If that is inaccurate i apologize, but that was the prevailing rumor when this news circulated in the area some time ago.

 

As for funding, I would be interested in seeing the proportion of all taxes generated in coal producing eastern ky vs urban counties such as Boone. No doubt income, sales and property taxes would be higher in the urban counties but coal severance taxes cannot be dismissed. I think the comparison would be interesting.

I was under the impression that local attorney Eric C Conn was footing the bill, or a great portion of it, for the Betsy Layne turf project. If that is inaccurate i apologize, but that was the prevailing rumor when this news circulated in the area some time ago.

 

As for funding, I would be interested in seeing the proportion of all taxes generated in coal producing eastern ky vs urban counties such as Boone. No doubt income, sales and property taxes would be higher in the urban counties but coal severance taxes cannot be dismissed. I think the comparison would be interesting.

 

The higher property taxes you pay towards school the lower the money you receive from the state.

How it relates: people out in the state (my area as much or more than anybody) complain that 'their money' goes out of their area to help fund Eastern Kentucky (you made a direct comment to this effect), yet they pay some of the lowest energy costs in the country due directly to what comes from E. Ky (my comment...in direct response to your comment). This benefits both residential AND business.

 

If the per pupil spending is $3000 per student in our district, I'm sure it's an average...and likely is skewed toward the poorest, lowest-achieving schools in our district. So, our school (not one of the poorest, lowest-achieving) is, in real terms, nowhere near $3000 per student. Makes sense to put more resources toward areas of town where the tax-base would be next to nothing...if not, we'd have basically a situation like the segregated South in the 30s and 40s (I'm VERY far from what one would call 'Liberal,' but I DO not feel it's best for our society to have schools in economically-depressed areas dependent on what they themselves pay in taxes; are you?).

 

So...what our budget is (transportation included) is 100% dependent on how we do with gate receipts (and, like yours, a lot of that goes toward sports with no gate receipts after expenses are taken out). I'm assuming your question is about, 'how much do we get for athletics from the board?' Same as yours. They pay for SOME of our coaches (not all) and we pay for everything else.

 

If we want more to spend, we either have to raise it ourselves (nobody else gets a cut of that) or we have to put a better product on the field so our gate receipts go up.

 

My direct comment was about how much money each school district has to spend per pupil and the discrepancies that Boone experiences.

 

The $3000 part was that you get that much more than Boone County Schools.

 

Here are the exact numbers for per pupil spending due to the SEEK formula for Jefferson and Boone.

 

Jefferson County $11,154

 

Boone County $7,879

 

The costs of utilities is much more than the location of where the coal comes from. The Ohio River plays a major part because of the cheaper transportation costs also, KY utilities are regulated. But it is all about to change because utilities are getting ready to stop using coal all together to fuel power plants. Duke Energy is planning to convert all coal power plants to natural gas in the next five years.

 

 

Like you I am far from "liberal" and I also believe that their is a moral obligation to equally fund education for our kids. This will only benefit everyone.

My direct comment was about how much money each school district has to spend per pupil and the discrepancies that Boone experiences.

 

The $3000 part was that you get that much more than Boone County Schools.

 

Here are the exact numbers for per pupil spending due to the SEEK formula for Jefferson and Boone.

 

Jefferson County $11,154

 

Boone County $7,879

 

The costs of utilities is much more than the location of where the coal comes from. The Ohio River plays a major part because of the cheaper transportation costs also, KY utilities are regulated. But it is all about to change because utilities are getting ready to stop using coal all together to fuel power plants. Duke Energy is planning to convert all coal power plants to natural gas in the next five years.

 

 

Like you I am far from "liberal" and I also believe that their is a moral obligation to equally fund education for our kids. This will only benefit everyone.

 

??? Betsy Layne is in Floyd Co, what does that have to do with Boone and Jefferson Co?

??? Betsy Layne is in Floyd Co, what does that have to do with Boone and Jefferson Co?

 

School funding system used by KY.

??? Betsy Layne is in Floyd Co, what does that have to do with Boone and Jefferson Co?

 

 

Technically you are right, this school funding topic should get its own thread.

I would like to know how they afford this as well. I would also like to know the amount of money that is taken from Boone County and allocated to other parts of the state. Anyone know where to find this figure?

 

I would say Boone gets its fair share. They just built a new High School, Middle School and Elementary school in Union not to long ago (Cooper High, Camp Ernst Middle, Long branch Elem) as well as finishing Thornwilde Elementary school this year.

 

Perhaps if Boone would allocate some funds to their current schools and stop building new ones every 2 years there schools would have the facilities they need.

Floyd County per pupil spending is $9942.

I would say Boone gets its fair share. They just built a new High School, Middle School and Elementary school in Union not to long ago (Cooper High, Camp Ernst Middle, Long branch Elem) as well as finishing Thornwilde Elementary school this year.

 

Perhaps if Boone would allocate some funds to their current schools and stop building new ones every 2 years there schools would have the facilities they need.

 

Plantman, you're way off base on this one.

The higher property taxes you pay towards school the lower the money you receive from the state.

I understand. My comment about total taxes comparison was in response to this quote by RomanEmpire.

I would like to know how they afford this as well. I would also like to know the amount of money that is taken from Boone County and allocated to other parts of the state. Anyone know where to find this figure?

Plantman, you're way off base on this one.

 

How so Clyde? Boone Co schools obviously knows how to manage their money, or they would not be able to build these new schools over the last 10 years or so. Those in NKY know that Boone Co chooses not to update their football fields to turf with public funds, that the only reason Ryle got turf was through private funds.

 

My point is that Boone Co chooses not to update their facilities, they could if they wanted too.

How so Clyde? Boone Co schools obviously knows how to manage their money, or they would not be able to build these new schools over the last 10 years or so. Those in NKY know that Boone Co chooses not to update their football fields to turf with public funds, that the only reason Ryle got turf was through private funds.

 

My point is that Boone Co chooses not to update their facilities, they could if they wanted too.

 

Define "could if they wanted to." You said previously that Boone should stop building new buildings and put money into their existing buildings. That's not an option without a lot more tax revenue. Boone's population has mandated that these schools be built unless the Boone community wants a lot of their kids being educated in trailers. Conner had close to 1700 kids in a building designed for probably 1200 before Cooper opened.

 

Boone isn't being willy nilly with their dollars. It's a big problem in "rich" Boone County like it is everywhere.

Define "could if they wanted to." You said previously that Boone should stop building new buildings and put money into their existing buildings. That's not an option without a lot more tax revenue. Boone's population has mandated that these schools be built unless the Boone community wants a lot of their kids being educated in trailers. Conner had close to 1700 kids in a building designed for probably 1200 before Cooper opened.

 

Boone isn't being willy nilly with their dollars. It's a big problem in "rich" Boone County like it is everywhere.

 

So your saying they have the tax revenue to build new buildings but not to improve existing ones?

So your saying they have the tax revenue to build new buildings but not to improve existing ones?

 

I'm saying that the tax revenue they do have is stretched very thin. What would make you think that's not true?