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Pikeville is probably the most underrated team in 1A football in any part of the state. Just my opinion...

I honestly do think that M-boro is better than Breathitt. Roark's teams have always gotten better as the year has went on and I think they will be ready for this game. Again, I hope that Harlan can pull it off in the end, but I don't see it happening. NG73, I will take the game ball offer again if you win because this would be great for you guys heading into the playoffs, and better yet Somerset. Good luck guys, prove me wrong.:thumb:

I think coach Donahue will be able to hold on to the ball long enough to where it will be hard for M-boro to put up the big numbers. Maybe under 200 is a little low so I will go with 250. However, I won't be supprised if Harlan can stop M-Boro with Coach Perry calling the defensive shots. One thing is for sure, this should be a pretty competitive game. I see Harlan maybe making too many mistakes though due to the fact that M-Boro has possibly one of the fastest teams in Eastern Ky. Good luck to both teams.

I'm definitley not anti-Harlan and I dont think that I said anything to make it sound that way. I have the upmost respect for coach Perry and his defensive schemes. I honestly think that M-boro will score atleast 2 touchdowns of that score that I listed on defense/special teams. I think Coach Perry is pretty good at stopping the veer in the past and I look for him to hold M-boro to under 200 yards rushing. Don't be supprised though if M-boro brings in a couple touchdowns from Interceptions and maybe a punt. Harlan's Recievers and QB haven't seen this kind of speed in the secondary all year nor the kind of pressure that Roark will bring at them when they try to spread it out. Hopefully I'm wrong. I try to pick with my head and not with my emotions.

Middlesboro 34 Harlan 14 Too much speed for Harlan on both sides of the ball.

I can't see Cumberland stopping Lynn Camp's running game. This could be a really close ball game though. In the end I think this could be the fourth year in a row that Cumberland doesn't make the playoffs. Lynn Camp 22 Cumberland 21

I stand corrected. I thought you all had already played Breathitt as well. Sorry about that.

Well I guess I will start this one. How is this game going to play out in your opinion? Both of these teams come in with only one loss (Harlan = Breathitt Co. and Middlesboro = Knoxville Central) but Middlesboro has played a hellacious schedule up to this point. Harlan's defense is stout but Middlesboro’s offense is putting up HUGE numbers. This has the makings of a good game.

Harlan-41 Williamsburg-34 While I know Harlan's defense is really good, in the past they have been weak against the pass. I don't know how much better they will be this year so look for Harlan to be down and have to crawl back into this one. In the last few years harlan hasn't brought a lot of pressure against Williamsburg either, so unless that changes this qb could be in for a big night. Also, Harlan is usually a little slow in the past after an off week so that is a factor as well.

By saying that the plays were not "lucky", you are implying that there are not any plays in football which are lucky? Just because you "mean to do something" doesn't mean that you aren't lucky when you do it. When a team throws a hail marry and they catch it in the end zone to end the game, is that not "lucky" just because they meant to do it? When you get an interception it is good defense, I will give you that. However, a "timely" interception can be considered lucky. The last time I checked I didn't say it was good or bad defense, I was only saying that the "big O Line" of Lynn Camp did not get “dominated” like you said. Maybe I do "over react" to people being somewhat cocky in their comments, I'll admit that. However, as far as telling me my comments aren't grown up doesn't validate someone coming on here and saying things like "Lynn Camp's big O-line got dominated." Remember there are kids from Lynn Camp that read this website too and I was only taking up for them. In the end, all I was stressing was that your "D-line" did not “dominate” anyone which is evident by the statistics. If I do recall coach Donahue said in the Harlan Daily Enterprise himself that this wasn't the best game his defense had played this year. Do you wish to dispute that with him? I am not taking away from the good win which it was. If you wish to refer to my comments earlier I gave them kudos for a "good win nevertheless." So while I admit that the mathematician comment may have been a little bit over the line and I apologize for that, I don't think I have been insulting to these kids caliber of play what so ever. All that I have done is try to keep Harlan’s heads level in public and not let them soak in comments about how they "dominated" someone. I also do this so that Lynn Camp kids who suffered the loss don’t have to listen to how much Harlan killed them. The last time I checked it was a close game which with the exception of a few plays could have went either way. To conclude this post I will say that I have nothing against you or any other poster on this website. My only wish is to see these kids play with some form of character not only on the field, but off of it as well, and not give themselves a bad name through some trivial web posts. But like I said, I have nothing against you and I definitely have nothing against these kids. And trust me, I have a lot more "perspective" than you might think. Have a good day.

Last time I checked he had 232 of the rushing yards and he touched the ball 40 times. While you might think this is ammunition for your side of this argument, I think you need to look at those numbers deeper. The last time I checked it didn't take a scholar with a doctorate in mathematics to figure out that 40 goes into 232, 5.8 times. This means that on average he was getting about 6 yards per carry against your defense. While I don't think he is going to challenge Adrian Peterson for the Heisman, that statistic speaks for itself. Which brings me to my final conclusion, two carries at 5.8 yards per carry is a first down and then some. While I know this wasn't the case always, you have to give some credit to the offensive line of Lynn Camp which seemed to be opening holes (except inside the 20). Given a few of the lucky breaks that you all had, like a blocked punt and a very timely interception, you could be the ones on the end of a 21-8 ball game. You seem to be walking the line between cocky and confident right now. I understand you have a lot of team pride and that is awesome. However, you should avoid posts which make you come off as being somewhat cocky like this one. After all, wasn't it you which promised me the game ball a few weeks ago? Keep your head level and you will go far, don't and see how quick your comments are disregarded.

Breathitt will score as many as they want and Cawood will score a touchdown or two very late in the game.

I have to agree with LC99 on this one. I think Lynn Camp's defense is the one that needs to be getting the compliments from this game. While Harlan gets the win, this was by no means their best game defensively. They allowed 283 yards on the ground and 302 total yards. While this doesn't sound horrible for an entire game, it wasn't as good as Lynn Camps defense which allowed only 186 yards for the entire game. If it wasn't for some big plays on special teams and the Lundy interception, this game would be a Lynn Camp win. As far as saying that the "Dragon defense [was] unaffected by the Camp's big front line," I think that 283 yards on the ground IS CONSIDERED getting affected. Harlan had better improve before the playoffs on both sides of the ball because it is very likely that these two teams see each other in the first round. Good win nevertheless.

While this offense has worked over the years, here is an interesting fact concerning Harlan's defense against Lynn Camp over the past few years. Harlan has let up an average of only 19 points per game against Lynn Camp in the last five meetings (2001 season till the present). If you want to find out when the last time Lynn Camp scored more than 30 points on Harlan you will have to go back further than the KHSAA scoreboard will allow you to go (before 1998). While Harlan has had a few 30 plus point games against Lynn Camp in that time, it is interesting to know that in those last eight years Harlan has won 5 games and Lynn Camp has won 4. So I will say that this game will be very close and can go either way. But as for those people who are predicting Lynn Camp scoring over 30 points against this Harlan team... it is very doubtful. Look for a close, LOW scoring game.

While I know Cumberland played well against Harlan, Evarts will make a game of this. However, Evarts is probably down more this year than they were when Coach Evans left. With that being said I am going to go with Cumberland. Cumberland: 35 Evarts: 20 (It will be close going into the 4th quarter.)

It is all according to how Harlan bounces back from their first loss. If they choose to lay around and sulk about being 4-1 all week at practice then this week will be an ugly one for them. I guess it was about three years ago when Lynn Camp had a very good team that had just beaten Somerset the week before and Harlan had a good team that was just coming off its first loss of the season when they were upset at Cumberland. Harlan took the loss as a wake up call and came out and smacked Lynn Camp 43-6. If Harlan chooses to take the Breathitt Co loss as a wake up call then they will win this game by a couple touchdowns. If they choose to feel sorry for themselves over loosing a hard fought game to a good ball club last week then they will loose by a couple of touchdowns. I will have to listen around to see how Harlan is practicing this week, if they practice well and have a good attitude then I will pick them. We will just have to wait and see.

I expected this to happen. I commend Harlan for sticking with Breathitt as much as they did. However, this can all go back to a comment I made earlier this week. Harlan's offense has a little bit of a big play threat but for the most part it isn't much better than it has been in years past. Lundy is a hard nose kid that plays with a lot of heart but he can't get it done all by himself every game. He has carried this team so far this year but carrying a team against Hazard, Evarts, Cawood and Cumberland (some what) isn't the same as carrying a team against quality opponents. Up until this point, Breathitt had let up an average of 28 points per game. Harlan's offense is going to have to get better. The passing game is better than in years past, but as you can tell, it isn't going to work against good athletes, it is just too slow developing and Will Pope isn't doing what he needs to do to get in the end zone. I would say it is time to go back to the drawing boards and see what can be done to move the ball against a good pass defense. I can't say it is the coach’s fault or the players, but it has got to improve or this could be another 1st/2nd round exit year for the Dragons... (Somerset is going to be just as good and so is M-boro). Keep your heads up though Harlan, the defense played well.

Bell County I believe.

Keep the updates coming as much as possible. I couldn't make this game but I am very interested. Thanks for doing this!

I think Cawood has improved this year. They already have doubled their win total from last year and they whipped Evarts last week. Harlan and Knox Central are there only two losses. HOWEVER, from what I have watched, there is no way I would expect them to be this close with M-boro. Good job by Cawood but I think this is a case of the "overlook syndrome" by M-boro.:sleep:

Yea, keep it coming. Sounds dissapointing for M-boro so far..

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but you might......(nothing like a good riddle hu? You won'figure out who I am so you might want to quit tryin'...)

Yea, and I'll pay the postage.

Well I think that you really need to quit worrying about political correctness when it comes to people saying stuff like "throttle/destroy." Not only are you playing nursery and sheltering these kids from what people think about there schedule, but you are also taking away locker room material. I know when I was playing I loved seeing people make comments about how easy our schedule was and how bad we were going to get beat. All that does for a football team is get them fired up to play on Friday. Also, since it isn't a direct attack on the quality of the football team but instead a simple way of saying "you’re going to get blown out", I don't see it as being a big deal. I know I have been told a lot worse things that that I was going to get leveled in a football game. I guarantee that those few kids who are checking this thread will only enjoy what other people say negative about them, and regret that you are going to make them look like they can't take a somewhat negative comment.

I know I have already posted this elsewhere in another thread about this game, but since this seems to be the active one I will place it in here as well. "Dragons Suffer First Loss" This will be the headlines this Saturday in the Harlan Daily Enterprise. Harlan is going to get their first taste of real good football this week. I know Breathitt Co. 2006 isn't the same Breathitt of old but I don't see them loosing this one. I know Harlan is 4-0 and #8 in the state or something like, that but Breathitt is a traditional 2A powerhouse, not 2A Cawood. I see Breathitt having little to no trouble picking the Dragon secondary apart in this one. Also I know Harlan is more balanced this year than they have been in the past but it sounds to me like the passing game isn't all that great for the Dragons. It does give them a little bit of a big play threat but not enough for this one. If Cumberland can shut down Lundy (60 yds rushing or something like that), I don't see Breathitt having a problem doing it. Also, I know Will Pope was rated one of the states best receivers coming into the year but he hasn't seen the other side of the goal line yet. For Harlan to win he has to step it up and play. Harlan will have to bring its “A” game to this one if they want to win. Breathitt Co. : 42 Harlan: 21 I hope to get proven wrong, but I doubt it will happen....