ThinThirty

Like I said before, I didn't know they could appeal. I'm sure there are a lot of the things I don't know, an appeal to a higher authority has to be in place. I guess what I'm saying is I hope things are ruled on justly and fair. But this isn't a perfect world and the people involved will just have to work through the process. I really didn't mean that the appeal was a loop hole, but once it gets into court there seems to be more wiggle room. But "It is what it is" to borrow a popular catch phrase.

What ever the law says I'm all for it. Athletics has nothing to do with my opinion about how lawyers can get around things and what is right or wrong, I see cases everyday on local and on the national level, where its very plain to see that people are guilty but get off on technical issues or find loop holes. I agree injustice in High School Athletics is kind of small beans, but you have to start somewhere. I hope the law is applied correctly in this situation. Also, I am a Christian and true justice will be served one day.

I didn't know that, but of course our legal system and its design allows for loop holes. The KHSSA rules and regs were put into place for a reason to keep order and control, so every individual and team can't do what ever they want. I can see a court over riding a KHSAA decision if its controversial or not clear cut, but from what I have seen this is not the case in this situation. Maybe the court will uphold the KHSAA decision, I guess we will know sometime in the near future. If the rules permit an appeal then I'm all for it, but like I said some laws and regulations can be twisted and the true purposes not be met. I'm sure my mention of Highlands got your attention a little, but I was just using it as an example.

I don't know what all of the answers are, but I don't think that when you are playing under an authority like the KHSAA, and the rules a clear, which in Dunn's case they seem to be, you can hire a lawyer get a court order and over ride the system. I'm not just saying this because I am a Danville fan, if he were leaving Boyle Co. and wanting to come to Danville I would feel the same way. I hate to see a player miss their senior year, but from everything I've seen, he shouldn't be eligible to play. Have other players done this very thing in the past, probably, at Danville probably, but were they cleared to play, yes. I think the player at Highlands a few years ago was able to over ride the KHSAA with a court order. But what a mess, and I know its a contriversial topic on this message board. In MY OPINION, when the KHSAA rules, hears an appeal an rules again that should be the end of the matter.

It would not suprise me to see a merger between the two schools in the next 10 years.

Who are these players you are speaking of? I've been involved either playing or watching Danville football for 35-40 years, I'm not saying there haven't been any, but very few that paid tuition to come to Danville to play football that had much impact on their past success. I do agree that most of the growth has taken place in the places you spoke of and most of those are in the Danville city limits, I just wished the Danville school district would have expanded when the City of Danville annexed those neighborhoods. I would imagine that a good part of Boyle's football team lives in the City limits of Danville.

I agree, but this is also the times when you then have to be willing to out work people in the weight room, taking pride and caring enough to do what has to be done to win. Some of Danville's losses last year were because the other teams were more talented and some were because they were out worked. Danville has won some games in the past against more talented teams because of work ethic, dedication, and the desire to lay it on the line. It appears that some of the younger players coming up may get back to having this attitude, I hope so. I honestly wish some of the older players, if they haven't changed their attitude for this year would just decide not to play football this year. And I'm talking about some that have some good athletic ability, but lack agressiveness and effort.

Boyle County's program is doing well right now, but I don't think it has any effect on Danville's football program, except for the Will Dunn situation. Boyle County is winning the games against each other right now, but I don't see how that has anything to do with the rest of the struggles Danville is having at this point.

I don't think Harp needs to go, but I do wish he would lay the law down on some of the players. If they are not willing to comit then they don't need to play. The weight training program has not been pushed the way it should have been, if it had, the Admiral defense would not have looked like swiss cheese last year. The Admirals have some athletes, but they need to be a lot stronger and more agressive. If you don't want to be agressive, Why even play? Tom Duffy is the coach that rebuilt Danville football to Championship status and layed a good foundation for Coach Harp. But no doubt Coach Harp is a great Coach and continued to build on what Duffy started.

I think you are right on Voice of Reason. Though in my opinion, it looks like the family felt it would increase his scholarship chances and probably in reality wouldn't have.

Whether true or not I haven't seen it, there was mention of Dunn making some questionable comments in the BCHS newspaper that sounded like he made the move for sports purposes? This also if true would affect things? It just appears on the outside looking in, Dunn made some moves and comments, which left not made would not have jeopardized his transfer. When this first came out I made the statement, "I hoped Dunn's family researched this situation well, and covered all the bases before they pulled the trigger."

I agree.:thumb:

I hear you, but this situation is a hard one, there is a lot of history between these schools. A lot of team chemistry is built on trust and loyalty, not saying I agree one way or the other but this would be hard. If he wanted to come back which I don't think he does, not sure, just have heard comments that would lead one to beleive he wouldn't. But I guess going with the team chemistry theme, I think the DHS players would have to have a say in the matter.

The Advocate Messenger really opened up a can of worms here, they tapped into the rivalry factor between the two schools. I heard from a reliable source that the Danville representatives in no uncertain terms expressed to the paper their displeasure as to the way they handled this story. I also noticed the newspaper pulled the story from the online version of the paper. I think everybody needs to take a deep breath and settle down, people are getting ridiculous in the comments section of the paper. This issue needs to be settled by the parties involved, The Dunns, KHSAA, Court, and who ever else is asked for facts from in this issue.

Will Dunn may have lived in Lincoln County at one time, But lived in Danville and established his eligibility when he started High School. I think he even played for Bate Middle School.

Another thing I was thinking, is, Does Boyle County want all this distraction? I know Boyle officials said they would not comment on its students and I think that is really smart on their part. But, would they want this looming over their program? What part will they play in the appeal? Highlands sure got in a mess a few years back. I'm sure Boyle officials will have their ducks in a row dealing with this situation. I gained great respect for the Boyle football program last year with their work ethic and dedication to winning their championship.:thumb:

I don't know where these guys lived, but from what I've seen stated on this thread as the rules, where ever they establish there eligibility is where they play unless they can transfer and meet KHSAA requirements. In their cases they must have been cleared to transfer. I don't know what Coach Harp's thinking is. He is AD and coach for Danville maybe he was required to make this statement by the KHSAA, maybe he wasn't. But a couple of other posts on here lead me to beleive his statement was probably a moot point.

So are you saying all of these other kids really broke KHSAA rules and everybody just covered it up by keeping quiet and not giving information to the KHSAA when they inquired about it? If Lamar Dawson wanted to be an Admiral, Coach Harp probably wouldn't be signing statements Larry French maybe if he was asked by the KHSAA. In my opinion which doesn't mean much to anybody but me, this appears to a clear cut violation and I don't care to which schools advantage DHS or BCHS or any other school, no matter what school I'm loyal to the ruling is correct with known information? I don't think athletes should be able to do as they please.

I wasn't sure since he did enroll in school at Boyle County. I don't know what Coach Harp would do if Dunn wanted to come back to Danville. From watching him coach and listening to him since 1988 he has always been big on loyalty. I guess we will have to wait and see how all this plays out. What a mess.:irked:

I'm not sure Sam Harp named the kid getting the text message, or maybe he had to for the schools statement to be legit. Does it matter? I see a lot of people throwing blame Harp's way. Is that fair? Dunn and family made this decision, and in my opinion what ever happens is the choice they made. It looks like he left just to play with a better team. The KHSAA puts rules in place so players and families can't just do what ever they want to. If they didn't have rules High School athletics would be pure kaos. IF the info in the paper is correct this ruling is clear cut.

I don't think there is any chance he will return to Danville to play football, maybe at this point the rules wouldn't allow that either. I don't think Coach Harp's motivation to sign a statement has anything to do with forcing him to come back to Danville. Not sure, I don't think we have all the information to make too many judgements. In addition sometimes newspapers can report things inaccurately.:idunno:

The text message from Dunn to another Danville player that is talked about in the Advocate Messenger, if true, will no way allow a reversal by the KHSAA when this decision is appealed. The rules need to be followed, sometimes you make decisions that are hard to live with later, I have no negative feelings toward Dunn and hate to see him miss his senior year but you have to abide by the rules set forth by the KHSAA. I would find it hard to beleive that the family wasn't aware of the potential circumstances that could come from this transfer.

I wonder how long it will take for the KHSAA to rule on Will's eligibility? I hope eveything works out for him, He is a nice young man and plays hard on the field. I think at times he might have felt like a lone ranger last year.

I hope so, I'll be there supporting them what ever happens.:thumb:

I don't guess I have it all figured out, but I have seen some disturbing things on the sidelines and by the way, I've heard others say the same things and agree with me. I would love to help them coach, just don't have the time. I guarantee I would be in some ears. Also, you ask me how I made my assesment I told you, its my opinion you don't have to agree, but a lot of people do!