Djason Unchained

There's only outrage when the supposed good guy does something bad.

Exactly. And unfortunately in some cases the outrage, protesting and rioting is cultivated off of a lie and misinformation.

I know the difference.

 

That's my point, society is upside down when an officer is killed and we just shrug our shoulders. When a criminal is killed, instead of waiting for the facts, there is rioting and looting.

 

I ask, what it seems, some posters feel is a legitimate question and you don't agree. That's fine. Doesn't make it crap anymore than yours.

So you want rioting and protesting and outrage when a cop is murdered? Fine, let's go to Omaha and burn up the shooter's home and neighborhood. Will that make you feel better?

What kills me is that I have seen an outpouring of sympathy and concern nationwide for this slain officer and that's what people were asking for as recently as the last slain officer. Now you want outrage, rioting and protesting. Maybe you'll get it next time an officer is slain since you want that kind of lunacy to take place.

I feel it is a legitimate question.

 

A criminal that tries to take an officers weapon away then fights him is killed by the officer, in self defense and outrage, looting and rioting occur.

 

You post something flippant. Suggesting that the officers could target a certain race due to the murder of the officer.

And you posted something flippant to start the whole thread off on the wrong path. Your post had the same tone of posts that take place when a white person is killed by a black person and people wonder what Al Sharpton has to say. And if you look at posts by other members it's easy to see I wasn't alone in my thinking. If you don't know the difference between the Michael Brown, Eric Garner and Freddie Gray situations and this situation then maybe you should start your post asking what the difference is between those situations and this one instead of asking where is the outrage, protesting and rioters at? When was the last time ANYBODY rioted, protested or express outrage at a cop being murdered when the person who shot the cop was rightfully gunned down and justice was served?

Some folks want to play along with you but I'm living a no nonsense life. You knew what you were doing with your post. I ain't falling for that crap.

Sad that these threads turn out this way. It's heart breaking to think about how excited she probably was to spend time with her new born child, and this coward took that away. I shouldn't say it, but I hope he burns in hell.

It is sad these threads turn out this way. Instead of celebrating her life and service incendiary posts are made right off that bat that deflect from the true story.

Wisconsin!

They didn't win it all either.

A completely unwarranted reply.

So was yours to detract and deflect from the tragedy of the officer being murdered in the shootout. Not sure why your outlandish post is any more necessary than mine. An officer, wife and mother was murdered by a fool but yet you are worried about where the outrage, protesters and rioters are? That is an unwarranted and uncalled for reply as well.

You're correct two people gone because one person couldn't handle the consequences of his actions.

I'm glad they got him. He got what he deserved.

It's a sad situation for her family.

 

This cop killing was not racial IMO, just some thug being a thug. I hope the cops finish him off so he can't go to prison and be in a gang and live as a hero there for killing a cop.

No doubt. Zero police issues around my way.

It's a sad situation for her family.

 

This cop killing was not racial IMO, just some thug being a thug. I hope the cops finish him off so he can't go to prison and be in a gang and live as a hero there for killing a cop.

I think he died in the hospital as a result of his stupidity.

Wonder where all the outrage, protests and rioting are?

Good question but I know uarmed blacks better do the speed limit, wear seatbelts and not look any white police officers in the eyes for a few weeks.

Just to be safe. Better safe than sorry.

Agree on Kelan Martin. Very good player. Inadvertently left him off the list. If I remember correctly, he played in Indiana?

 

The rest would not have helped, although Cunningham might have provided some quality depth behind Beverly.

 

On the wing, Green would not have played ahead of Jeff Thomas, Camron Justice, James Bolden, or Zach McCormick.

 

In the post, Grundy would not have played ahead of Jackson Davis, Rob Marberry, Justin Johnson, or Ray Spalding.

Come on man, really?

You get Snider, Green, Grundy and Cunningham and you probably get Martin and Russell as well. Russell wanted to play in the EYBL and chances are had he been able to play with his Magic team in the EYBL he would have.

I think he was pointing out that some people make it seem like more than it really is when in reality only .5 percent are in jail for non violent dug offenses only. People skew statistics to make them seem worse than they are, especially when it comes to police. You would think police are out to kill young black males for no reason because that's what a lot of people tell you...The facts simply don't support that though.

I agree about statistics. It's one thing to say 15,000 blacks are in jail for non-violent drug crimes and a whole other thing to say only .5% of blacks in jail are in jail for non-violent drug crimes.

At the same time his speech makes it seem like the media and a few isolated incidents make it impossible to be a good cop when it really is nothing more than an excuse.

They don't do tryouts. They missed on Colton Elkins, Eli Wright and Quentin Goodin this year. Not sure beyond that. They had Quentin and Tray Hollowell at one point.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

And we thought Dwight was soft. Demarre Carroll just took that title from Dwight.

The stance the NFL should have taken was BEFORE the game. The Colts tipped them off. All Goodell had to do was to pick up the phone and call is best friend Kraft and say, "The Colts are saying you guys may be doing something wrong with the footballs. We are going to be watching you closely this week and from now on. Tell your guys if they have ever messed with the footballs to stop right now."

 

Issue is dealt with and we have never ever heard the words deflate-gate...

 

Hard to believe this conversation never happened...

The NFL has lost cases because they failed to do this exact thing. They lost BountyGate because of this and they lost the case where they knew about spiked supplements and never told the players and then tried to suspend players who took the supplements.

That's bad business. Especially when the NFL has given the QBs carte blanche over the footballs for such a long time.

My question is why don't the Travelers get the best players in the state? Do they have tryouts or invites or are they pre picked before hand.

This is a great question. Who has some insight to this question? How do the Travelers get their kids? What kids have the Travelers gone after that have turned them down?

That has nothing to do with police, to be honest. But I think his point was that not many (percentage wise) of the black males in prison are there for non violent drug charges only.

 

I think his point was that the overwhelming majority are there for other reasons as well.

 

 

Also it would be interesting to see how many (in percentages) people of other races are in prison for non violent drug charges only.

I wasn't saying that it had anything to do with the police. I just thought his play with statistics was interesting.

I'm definitely interested in all of the numbers and not just percentages of people of all races in jail for non-violent drug crimes.

I thought this was an excellent point made by Sheriff Calrke:

 

Black-on-black crime is the elephant in the room that few want to talk about. We can talk about police use of force but it doesn’t start with transforming the police profession. It starts by asking why we need so much assertive policing in the American ghetto. Are police officers perfect? Not by any stretch of the imagination. Are police agencies perfect? Not… even… close. But we are the best our communities have to offer.

 

Instead, the conversation should be about transforming Black underclass subculture behavior. The discussion must start with addressing the behavior of people who have no respect for authority, who fight with and try to disarm the police, who flee the police, and who engage in other flawed lifestyle choices. Bashing the police is the low-hanging fruit. It is easier to talk about the rare killing of a Black male by police because emotion can be exploited for political advantage.

 

The police are easier to throw overboard because they can’t fight back politically. This however is counter-productive and will lead to police pulling back in high crime areas where good law-abiding Black people live. Black people will be the losers in all this as violent crime rates skyrocket over time. This means more…Black…crime victims.

People don't want to talk about that objectively.

I actually read it now and see what you are saying. He makes some good points, supported by facts.

I thought it was interesting how he used percentages instead of the actual numbers to accentuate his facts. He downplays the number of people in jail for drug related crimes by saying only .5% of the black male population in jail would be released if non violent offenders were released. .5% nationwide is a pretty significant number isn't it?

I haven't seen anything supporting that.

Clarke said there will be more black victims of crime because of the criticizing of police departments.

I'll make a 10yr wager with you on that one. You name the stakes.

I want in on this.

If you actually research murder stats in NYC they have dropped significantly over the last several years. If I remember correctly they went from several murders city wide per day, to less than one per day.

So much for that now though, huh? Cops are bailing on the blacks in the inner cities because of some isolated incidents so the crime rates are about to rise again. Was good while it lasted.

May be a good thing for you but not for black people in the inner-city. Since the vast majority of victims of inner-city crime are black people, police basically "mailing it in" will create more black victims...

Yeah, because they do such an awesome job of preventing crime in the inner city now. :lol2:

This could be a good thing. I hope all cops are scared of black people now and afraid to do their jobs effectively. That should mean no more speeding tickets for me since they'll be afraid that I have Sharpton on speed dial. I'll be more than happy to exploit their fear of black people.