So you'd have no problem with it, because you agree with the message that a cross or crucifix represents. Just because you don't agree with the message that this display represents, doesn't give you or anyone else the right to attempt to censor it.

 

To be clear, I don't necessarily think any displays with any type of religious undertones should be done on government property, but if we're going to allow one, we have to allow all, even those we don't agree with or in some cases are offended by.

 

I dont have a problem with crucifing Santa, just not right before Christmas. Do it in July.

 

I have come to accept religion is going bye bye due to individuals who protest religion based on 1st amendment.

You really just don't get it, do you? Why is your religion or beliefs in general so much better than those of everyone else? You feel that everything that has to deal with your beliefs should be allowed, but if it contradicts your beliefs society is in the crapper for allowing it.

 

You can't have it both ways. If having a crucified Santa on display is okay in July, it's okay in December. If having a cross or crucifix on display is okay, then so is a crucified Santa.

 

We don't live in a country that is "my way or the highway". Our country was not founded as a Christian nation, although many will try to tell you differently.

You really just don't get it, do you? Why is your religion or beliefs in general so much better than those of everyone else? You feel that everything that has to deal with your beliefs should be allowed, but if it contradicts your beliefs society is in the crapper for allowing it.

 

You can't have it both ways. If having a crucified Santa on display is okay in July, it's okay in December. If having a cross or crucifix on display is okay, then so is a crucified Santa.

 

We don't live in a country that is "my way or the highway". Our country was not founded as a Christian nation, although many will try to tell you differently.

 

Please believe me when I say this. THANK GOD I DONT BELIEVE LIKE YOU. Why dont my beliefs matter, every atheist, American hater, GOD hater, gets their way and it is all due to people like you. So thanks for making the America I grew up in so twisted and evil. Have a Merry Christmas, or I should say to you a happy holiday.

Thank you for expressing so well what my feelings are on this subject.

 

I don't question this guy's right to express himself, I just think this is an inappropriate venue for it.

It was this line that nailed it for you eh Toots?

 

"I wouldn't care if he built a platform upon which he could squat and defecate upon his "masterpiece" as viewers look on in amazement."

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Just kidding Brother... Thanks! Always good to be in agreement with The Sage of the Hills. :thumb:

1) I never said your beliefs don't matter, just that they aren't the only beliefs that matter. You must not read much of what is actually posted.

 

2) It's always been Merry Christmas for me.

1) I never said your beliefs don't matter, just that they aren't the only beliefs that matter. You must not read much of what is actually posted.

 

2) It's always been Merry Christmas for me.

 

I am shocked you say Merry Christmas, as sensitive as you are to all other beliefs, I am surprised you aren't SCARED you may hurt someones feelings and violate their First Amendment Rights of religion.

 

You said why should my beliefs be the only one that matters is the same as saying they don't matter.

I appreciate the message of the display (or the message that I got from it - that we put too much emphasis on "Santa" and getting/gifts and not enough about Christ and his message to us about how we treat others), but once I saw the actual display I thought that it looked pretty ridiculous. With that being said, I don't think that a young child is going to make the connection that "Santa" is being crucified. I think that they would just think that he is leaning up against the cross. But it does bring up a good point. Were any of us, as young children, bothered by images of Jesus being crucified? I don't remember being so, but I also didn't grow up believing in Santa (Christmas was a celebration of Christ's birth, we received few gifts), so maybe it was different for others.

I am shocked you say Merry Christmas, as sensitive as you are to all other beliefs, I am surprised you aren't SCARED you may hurt someones feelings and violate their First Amendment Rights of religion.

 

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You consistently show that you do not understand the Constitution.

So you'd have no problem with it, because you agree with the message that a cross or crucifix represents. Just because you don't agree with the message that this display represents, doesn't give you or anyone else the right to attempt to censor it.

 

To be clear, I don't necessarily think any displays with any type of religious undertones should be done on government property, but if we're going to allow one, we have to allow all, even those we don't agree with or in some cases are offended by.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but if you're going to allow such displays, how do you define whether one has a legitimate "religious" premise? Simply because the "artist" says so? I'm not talking about a display involving a religion with which you simply disagree (i.e., Muslim, Buddha, etc). Stealing from Fastbreak's analogy, what if I took a montrous dump and placed it on a pretty red and green board and claimed that it's message was that the true Christian meaning of Christmas has gone to crap. Is this a legitimate expression of my religious beliefs that has some inalienable right to be displayed? Probably same question as Clyde was asking - is something "art" just because the artist says it is?

I am shocked you say Merry Christmas, as sensitive as you are to all other beliefs, I am surprised you aren't SCARED you may hurt someones feelings and violate their First Amendment Rights of religion.

 

You said why should my beliefs be the only one that matters is the same as saying they don't matter.

 

Gosh, I bet it completely blows your mind that I said Merry Christmas to probably a dozen different folks today.

You said why should my beliefs be the only one that matters is the same as saying they don't matter.

 

What sort of warpped logic leads you to that conclusion? Saying your beliefs aren't the only ones that matter means that everyone's beliefs should be treated as equally valuable. How in the world can you take that to mean that I'm saying they don't matter?

 

Can anyone help me? What am I missing? :idunno: