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Let me get this straight, we help Haiti disaster but nothing for Gulf disaster?

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First off let me say that I'm all for helping everyone when there is a major disaster that affects the lives of anyone or anything BUT there has to be priority in these situations. Yes the Haiti disaster was a while back but there were benefit concerts, donation help lines, etc.

 

As far as I can tell there has been nothing of such for this oil spill. I just don't understand why we (Americans) drop everything to help other countries but hesitate to help our own country. The government has dropped the ball horribly with this relief effort, and as a result a lot of lives are lost.

 

That's why I don't jump on these international relief efforts, because there are people and environments that need the money here as well.

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While I agree there should be some/more and probably will be clean up fundraisers. The big difference I see is 250,000 human lives at least were lost as compared to 11 in the gulf. Not only is the loss of life drastically different but the entire nation of Hatti was in rubble. The gulf region is not without hospitals, roads, drinking water, etc. Another reason may be is that this spill is a result of a corporation's neglegence or an accident however you choose to view it and the other was a natural disaster. People of the United States are pretty compassionate and when they see children dying in the streets because of a natural disaster they help. I don't see the problem with that.

While I agree there should be some/more and probably will be clean up fundraisers. The big difference I see is 250,000 human lives at least were lost as compared to 11 in the gulf. Not only is the loss of life drastically different but the entire nation of Hatti was in rubble. The gulf region is not without hospitals, roads, drinking water, etc. Another reason may be is that this spill is a result of a corporation's neglegence or an accident however you choose to view it and the other was a natural disaster. People of the United States are pretty compassionate and when they see children dying in the streets because of a natural disaster they help. I don't see the problem with that.

 

I didn't see anything being done to help Nashville. That was a natural disaster.

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While I agree there should be some/more and probably will be clean up fundraisers. The big difference I see is 250,000 human lives at least were lost as compared to 11 in the gulf. Not only is the loss of life drastically different but the entire nation of Hatti was in rubble. The gulf region is not without hospitals, roads, drinking water, etc. Another reason may be is that this spill is a result of a corporation's neglegence or an accident however you choose to view it and the other was a natural disaster. People of the United States are pretty compassionate and when they see children dying in the streets because of a natural disaster they help. I don't see the problem with that.

 

 

But yet when they see people in the streets here it's different. Seems like the United States government is more concerned about helping disasters overseas than the ones in their own yard.

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http://www.nashvillerising.org/

 

http://www.yourtrackpass.com/2010/05/26/benefit-concert-at-nashville-superspeedway/

 

:idunno: Those links were on the first page of a google search I did.

 

I dunno about him but I said I didn't see anything, as in nothing is being publicized. The Haiti relief was a national media coverage event. These are not. Yes it's great that these benefits are happening but they are receiving none of the exposure that other international disasters received.

But yet when they see people in the streets here it's different. Seems like the United States government is more concerned about helping disasters overseas than the ones in their own yard.

 

Where are people dying in the streets here, especially not anywhere close to the numbers in Hatti? There were certainly benefits and a lot of money rasied for Katrina. I am failing to see your point all of the lives lost in the oil spill were on the first day of the explosion. Now wildlife/vegetation is a different story.

I dunno about him but I said I didn't see anything, as in nothing is being publicized. The Haiti relief was a national media coverage event. These are not. Yes it's great that these benefits are happening but they are receiving none of the exposure that other international disasters received.

 

Around 30 people parished in the Nashville flood while tragic it is not a quarter of a million. Nashville seems to be operating just fine as they put on a muic awards show last night, Hatti was devestated. Can't you see the difference?

I didn't see anything being done to help Nashville. That was a natural disaster.

 

Again, there was quite a difference in the death toll between the Nashville flood and the Haitian earthquake. Also, if you didn't see anyone doing anything, you weren't looking closely enough. There were several celebrities that donated money to help in the aid.

 

Truly, people, we have to see the difference in disasters here. Haiti is an extremely poor country that had a major disaster that resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead and injured people. They did not have the infrastructure to take care of something so extreme. If the world (mostly the US) had not responded, hundreds of thousands more could have died due to widespread disease and lack of medical care.

 

The flood in Nashville was a localized event with a small death toll, though a large impact on the area. Luckily, those injured and in danger could be quickly cared for and removed from harm.

 

The continuing gulf disaster is much different than the Haitian one. Again, there was a small (human) death toll, but the environmental effects are just starting to be seen. My guess is that as the situation progresses, we are going to see more needs being apparent. Probably, instead of needing people to donate money, there will be a greater call to donate their time. I have a friend that is currently somewhere along the coast doing whatever she can to help.

 

Let's not act as though saving lives in Haiti is somehow less important than repairing/cleaning our coastlines. I cringe when I think of the death of wildlife and the destruction of our ecosystem, but I have to say that it does come second (for me) to saving the lives of children and babies. Add in the fact that there is an entity responsible for the gulf disaster that can be held accountable financially. The same is not true of the Haitian earthquake.

 

TrueBlueWildcat, there is nothing stopping you from donating whatever you choose to for any disaster, including this one. I'm sure cash donations or donating your time would be very much appreciated.

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Around 30 people parished in the Nashville flood while tragic it is not a quarter of a million. Nashville seems to be operating just fine as they put on a muic awards show last night, Hatti was devestated. Can't you see the difference?

 

I can see the difference but I can also see that there are people here that need help as well but are left out. It's the same as adopting these foreign kids from those commercials, yes I feel bad for them and they've had a rough life BUT there are kids right here in the United States who can be adopted as well.

 

 

I'm saying America and it's citizens should be priority over everything. I don't want to pay money so we can rebuild 3rd world countries, Iraq, and etc. I don't want to pay money for us to go overseas and help others when we are in bad shape as a country anyway.

I think the difference has nothing to do with lost lives, but everything to do with the availability of resources. C'mon, people! No matter where a disaster may occur in the United States, between local, state and federal aid, and the individual resources in a community, we'll bounce back.

 

In Haiti, the condititons were already dire before the earthquake. An impoverished country, no good infrastructure, no building codes, issues within the government. They were literally on the brink before, and the earthquake completely destroyed not only the impoverished, but many of the positive resources in the country.

 

You can't even begin to compare the ability to recover in places like Haiti, Burma, etc, to the abilities and resources we have in the United States.

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Again, there was quite a difference in the death toll between the Nashville flood and the Haitian earthquake. Also, if you didn't see anyone doing anything, you weren't looking closely enough. There were several celebrities that donated money to help in the aid.

 

Truly, people, we have to see the difference in disasters here. Haiti is an extremely poor country that had a major disaster that resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead and injured people. They did not have the infrastructure to take care of something so extreme. If the world (mostly the US) had not responded, hundreds of thousands more could have died due to widespread disease and lack of medical care.

 

The flood in Nashville was a localized event with a small death toll, though a large impact on the area. Luckily, those injured and in danger could be quickly cared for and removed from harm.

 

The continuing gulf disaster is much different than the Haitian one. Again, there was a small (human) death toll, but the environmental effects are just starting to be seen. My guess is that as the situation progresses, we are going to see more needs being apparent. Probably, instead of needing people to donate money, there will be a greater call to donate their time. I have a friend that is currently somewhere along the coast doing whatever she can to help.

 

Let's not act as though saving lives in Haiti is somehow less important than repairing/cleaning our coastlines. I cringe when I think of the death of wildlife and the destruction of our ecosystem, but I have to say that it does come second (for me) to saving the lives of children and babies. Add in the fact that there is an entity responsible for the gulf disaster that can be held accountable financially. The same is not true of the Haitian earthquake.

 

TrueBlueWildcat, there is nothing stopping you from donating whatever you choose to for any disaster, including this one. I'm sure cash donations or donating your time would be very much appreciated.

 

Now I'm not saying the U.S. shouldn't help at all, but I am saying that our country should be priority number one.

 

I'm also not comparing the death toll between Haiti and the Gulf, I'm just comparing the help from our own government. And we have thousands of children and babies die here everyday that could be prevented with money and help so I don't see your point on that one. I am saying we need to prioritize the money to 1) United States 2) other places, not vice versa like it is right now.

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I think the difference has nothing to do with lost lives, but everything to do with the availability of resources. C'mon, people! No matter where a disaster may occur in the United States, between local, state and federal aid, and the individual resources in a community, we'll bounce back.

 

In Haiti, the condititons were already dire before the earthquake. An impoverished country, no good infrastructure, no building codes, issues within the government. They were literally on the brink before, and the earthquake completely destroyed not only the impoverished, but many of the positive resources in the country.

 

You can't even begin to compare the ability to recover in places like Haiti, Burma, etc, to the abilities and resources we have in the United States.

 

Why is it up to the United States to help them? We have our own problems, and although you say we're quick to recover I would debate that with some pictures, video, articles, of cities, towns, people, houses, etc. that are in horrible shape due to lack of funding and other things.

Now I'm not saying the U.S. shouldn't help at all, but I am saying that our country should be priority number one.

 

I'm also not comparing the death toll between Haiti and the Gulf, I'm just comparing the help from our own government. And we have thousands of children and babies die here everyday that could be prevented with money and help so I don't see your point on that one. I am saying we need to prioritize the money to 1) United States 2) other places, not vice versa like it is right now.

 

To be fair, the US funds were committed back in February. Would you think it's smart to withdraw from that committment?

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