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Gallatin/South Oldham updates

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I don't think it was one sided just very tight. It's my personal opinion you should let the kids play especially during the tournament. Call at the end was a joke and both teams deserve better. Great year GC. You made the community proud.

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I guarantee Steve Simpson who is a class guy and a great coach told his players they got a gift. The question now is what do they do with it. Beat Shelby!

I don't think it was one sided just very tight. It's my personal opinion you should let the kids play especially during the tournament. Call at the end was a joke and both teams deserve better. Great year GC. You made the community proud.

 

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I saw a big game a couple of years ago that was decided by a call with 2 tenths of a second left that decided a game so tonight's contest wasn't the first time. Most times the call is not made but I have seen it happen before.

 

Great season for the Wildcats and good luck to South Oldham.

I saw a big game a couple of years ago that was decided by a call with 2 tenths of a second left that decided a game so tonight's contest wasn't the first time. Most times the call is not made but I have seen it happen before.

 

Great season for the Wildcats and good luck to South Oldham.

 

When there was no contact.

OK, I'm NOT going to weigh in on whether or not the final foul was a real foul or a "ghost" one. Reasonable people will argue until the cows come home regarding that, but I'm going to say this:

 

The idea that the officials should swallow their whistles in the final minute is bogus. You play 32 minutes in a game. The officials should officiate for 32 minutes every game. A foul is a foul is a foul, regardless of when it comes - 1 second into the game or 1 second left. If the official thought he saw a foul, he should have blown the whistle without regard to who was shooting, who was winning, or what the time was. Was it a foul? We (the announcing crews) were too far away to really tell that easily. But if the official thought he saw a foul, he was correct in blowing the whistle.

 

In a way, it was ironic that it was South that benefitted from a late call. The South Oldham ladies were eliminated from the girls' 8th region tourney by a similar late call when the officials called a foul on South with 1 second left in overtime vs. Shelby County with South up one. Shelby's Ailiyah Wells hit two free throws to give the Lady Rockets the one point win.

 

Some other tidbits from the game...

 

1 - The game was called tight, but I don't think it was one-sided. South was whistled for 20 fouls; Gallatin 19. South shot 16 free throws; Gallatin shot 23. Pretty even. Of course, the idea that refs from the south side of Louisville care about either of these two teams is pretty funny, anyway.

 

2 - Rebounding and turnovers won the game for South. Forget the drama of the final minute. It wouldn't have existed had South not been so strong on the glass (particularly Chris Schumm, who unofficially had 15 rebounds) and forced so many turnovers. (unofficially, Gallatin with 21 turnovers compared to South's 10.)

 

3 - Gallatin out of the gate very, very strong - ultimately led by 19 at 26-7. But the 1-3-1 trap caused Gallatin an awful lot of problems, and South (after going 2 for 16 in the first period) shot 24 for 50 the rest of the way.

 

4 - A lot of us predicted that this would be a barnburner kind of game, but I truly think South's kids took this a little too lightly early on. They may not have consciously felt they did, but they're teenagers, and South won handily in Warsaw earlier in the year. South Coach Steve Simpson was worried about this before the game. As he pointed out, that was right after the All-A, and Gallatin was still dealing with the All-A disappointment and a bit down at the time. Simpson was right to worry.

 

5 - Kudos to the seniors for Gallatin who played so well in their final game. Zac Jones with 12 points and a bunch of rebounds. We had him 4 for 5 from the field. Bryce Carlton had 4 points, and Jake Giles two.

 

6 - Kudos to South for refusing to fold after a disastrous first period and early second period that saw them fall behind 26-7. South coach Steve Simpson replaced his entire team on the court, and the subs got things going for South, then the starters returned to rally the team. This was a rally like I haven't seen in the 8th region tournament in many, many years.

 

7 - Travis Davis of Gallatin with another ridiculously long three pointer. This kid's range is in the "unbelievable" category. But he got both of his threes tonight in the first quarter, and South pretty much denied him the looks the rest of the way. (He managed to try one three in each of the final three quarters - all misses.)

 

8 - South's length was an issue for Gallatin tonight. South's starters go 6'5", 6'4", 6'3", 6'4" and 5'11".

 

9 - Gallatin shot well (22 of 44, 50%) and hit 16 of 23 free throws (69.5%). Williamson had 14, Joel Carlton had 13, and Jones had 12. Davis and Morgan both had 9.

 

10 - South was led by Brice Jewett's 16, Carson Fields' 12, and Chris Schumm's 11 (plus 15 rebounds)

 

- Most exciting game of the tournament. This was a real treat for the fans. It was a shame a few disappointed Gallatin fans had to tarnish what was a tremendous effort by the two winningest teams in the region with a rather childish display of poor sportsmanship after the game. Sure, it was an emotional loss, but it's up to adults to be adults. Jon Jones' players, as always, did Gallatin proud. Too bad some of the adults didn't.

 

Best of luck to South Oldham in the final, and congrats to Jon Jones and the Gallatin County Wildcats for yet another tremendous season. The Wildcats are always a factor - and I expect they will be again next year.

I saw a big game a couple of years ago that was decided by a call with 2 tenths of a second left that decided a game so tonight's contest wasn't the first time. Most times the call is not made but I have seen it happen before.

 

Great season for the Wildcats and good luck to South Oldham.

I know of the game you speak. Only difference? There was actual contact in that game two years ago. I had a pretty good view for both plays. For what it is worth, that's just my opinion. Which really doesn't mean much.
OK, I'm NOT going to weigh in on whether or not the final foul was a real foul or a "ghost" one. Reasonable people will argue until the cows come home regarding that, but I'm going to say this:

 

The idea that the officials should swallow their whistles in the final minute is bogus. You play 32 minutes in a game. The officials should officiate for 32 minutes every game. A foul is a foul is a foul, regardless of when it comes - 1 second into the game or 1 second left. If the official thought he saw a foul, he should have blown the whistle without regard to who was shooting, who was winning, or what the time was. Was it a foul? We (the announcing crews) were too far away to really tell that easily. But if the official thought he saw a foul, he was correct in blowing the whistle.

 

In a way, it was ironic that it was South that benefitted from a late call. The South Oldham ladies were eliminated from the girls' 8th region tourney by a similar late call when the officials called a foul on South with 1 second left in overtime vs. Shelby County with South up one. Shelby's Ailiyah Wells hit two free throws to give the Lady Rockets the one point win.

 

Some other tidbits from the game...

 

1 - The game was called tight, but I don't think it was one-sided. South was whistled for 20 fouls; Gallatin 19. South shot 16 free throws; Gallatin shot 23. Pretty even. Of course, the idea that refs from the south side of Louisville care about either of these two teams is pretty funny, anyway.

 

2 - Rebounding and turnovers won the game for South. Forget the drama of the final minute. It wouldn't have existed had South not been so strong on the glass (particularly Chris Schumm, who unofficially had 15 rebounds) and forced so many turnovers. (unofficially, Gallatin with 21 turnovers compared to South's 10.)

 

3 - Gallatin out of the gate very, very strong - ultimately led by 19 at 26-7. But the 1-3-1 trap caused Gallatin an awful lot of problems, and South (after going 2 for 16 in the first period) shot 24 for 50 the rest of the way.

 

4 - A lot of us predicted that this would be a barnburner kind of game, but I truly think South's kids took this a little too lightly early on. They may not have consciously felt they did, but they're teenagers, and South won handily in Warsaw earlier in the year. South Coach Steve Simpson was worried about this before the game. As he pointed out, that was right after the All-A, and Gallatin was still dealing with the All-A disappointment and a bit down at the time. Simpson was right to worry.

 

5 - Kudos to the seniors for Gallatin who played so well in their final game. Zac Jones with 12 points and a bunch of rebounds. We had him 4 for 5 from the field. Bryce Carlton had 4 points, and Jake Giles two.

 

6 - Kudos to South for refusing to fold after a disastrous first period and early second period that saw them fall behind 26-7. South coach Steve Simpson replaced his entire team on the court, and the subs got things going for South, then the starters returned to rally the team. This was a rally like I haven't seen in the 8th region tournament in many, many years.

 

7 - Travis Davis of Gallatin with another ridiculously long three pointer. This kid's range is in the "unbelievable" category. But he got both of his threes tonight in the first quarter, and South pretty much denied him the looks the rest of the way. (He managed to try one three in each of the final three quarters - all misses.)

 

8 - South's length was an issue for Gallatin tonight. South's starters go 6'5", 6'4", 6'3", 6'4" and 5'11".

 

9 - Gallatin shot well (22 of 44, 50%) and hit 16 of 23 free throws (69.5%). Williamson had 14, Joel Carlton had 13, and Jones had 12. Davis and Morgan both had 9.

 

10 - South was led by Brice Jewett's 16, Carson Fields' 12, and Chris Schumm's 11 (plus 15 rebounds)

 

- Most exciting game of the tournament. This was a real treat for the fans. It was a shame a few disappointed Gallatin fans had to tarnish what was a tremendous effort by the two winningest teams in the region with a rather childish display of poor sportsmanship after the game. Sure, it was an emotional loss, but it's up to adults to be adults. Jon Jones' players, as always, did Gallatin proud. Too bad some of the adults didn't.

 

Best of luck to South Oldham in the final, and congrats to Jon Jones and the Gallatin County Wildcats for yet another tremendous season. The Wildcats are always a factor - and I expect they will be again next year.

I was at the game. Was not aware of any poor sportsmanship.
OK, I'm NOT going to weigh in on whether or not the final foul was a real foul or a "ghost" one. Reasonable people will argue until the cows come home regarding that, but I'm going to say this:

 

The idea that the officials should swallow their whistles in the final minute is bogus. You play 32 minutes in a game. The officials should officiate for 32 minutes every game. A foul is a foul is a foul, regardless of when it comes - 1 second into the game or 1 second left. If the official thought he saw a foul, he should have blown the whistle without regard to who was shooting, who was winning, or what the time was. Was it a foul? We (the announcing crews) were too far away to really tell that easily. But if the official thought he saw a foul, he was correct in blowing the whistle.

 

In a way, it was ironic that it was South that benefitted from a late call. The South Oldham ladies were eliminated from the girls' 8th region tourney by a similar late call when the officials called a foul on South with 1 second left in overtime vs. Shelby County with South up one. Shelby's Ailiyah Wells hit two free throws to give the Lady Rockets the one point win.

 

Some other tidbits from the game...

 

1 - The game was called tight, but I don't think it was one-sided. South was whistled for 20 fouls; Gallatin 19. South shot 16 free throws; Gallatin shot 23. Pretty even. Of course, the idea that refs from the south side of Louisville care about either of these two teams is pretty funny, anyway.

 

2 - Rebounding and turnovers won the game for South. Forget the drama of the final minute. It wouldn't have existed had South not been so strong on the glass (particularly Chris Schumm, who unofficially had 15 rebounds) and forced so many turnovers. (unofficially, Gallatin with 21 turnovers compared to South's 10.)

 

3 - Gallatin out of the gate very, very strong - ultimately led by 19 at 26-7. But the 1-3-1 trap caused Gallatin an awful lot of problems, and South (after going 2 for 16 in the first period) shot 24 for 50 the rest of the way.

 

4 - A lot of us predicted that this would be a barnburner kind of game, but I truly think South's kids took this a little too lightly early on. They may not have consciously felt they did, but they're teenagers, and South won handily in Warsaw earlier in the year. South Coach Steve Simpson was worried about this before the game. As he pointed out, that was right after the All-A, and Gallatin was still dealing with the All-A disappointment and a bit down at the time. Simpson was right to worry.

 

5 - Kudos to the seniors for Gallatin who played so well in their final game. Zac Jones with 12 points and a bunch of rebounds. We had him 4 for 5 from the field. Bryce Carlton had 4 points, and Jake Giles two.

 

6 - Kudos to South for refusing to fold after a disastrous first period and early second period that saw them fall behind 26-7. South coach Steve Simpson replaced his entire team on the court, and the subs got things going for South, then the starters returned to rally the team. This was a rally like I haven't seen in the 8th region tournament in many, many years.

 

7 - Travis Davis of Gallatin with another ridiculously long three pointer. This kid's range is in the "unbelievable" category. But he got both of his threes tonight in the first quarter, and South pretty much denied him the looks the rest of the way. (He managed to try one three in each of the final three quarters - all misses.)

 

8 - South's length was an issue for Gallatin tonight. South's starters go 6'5", 6'4", 6'3", 6'4" and 5'11".

 

9 - Gallatin shot well (22 of 44, 50%) and hit 16 of 23 free throws (69.5%). Williamson had 14, Joel Carlton had 13, and Jones had 12. Davis and Morgan both had 9.

 

10 - South was led by Brice Jewett's 16, Carson Fields' 12, and Chris Schumm's 11 (plus 15 rebounds)

 

- Most exciting game of the tournament. This was a real treat for the fans. It was a shame a few disappointed Gallatin fans had to tarnish what was a tremendous effort by the two winningest teams in the region with a rather childish display of poor sportsmanship after the game. Sure, it was an emotional loss, but it's up to adults to be adults. Jon Jones' players, as always, did Gallatin proud. Too bad some of the adults didn't.

 

Best of luck to South Oldham in the final, and congrats to Jon Jones and the Gallatin County Wildcats for yet another tremendous season. The Wildcats are always a factor - and I expect they will be again next year.

Col.Mike I was expecting better from you. To diminish this great game by saying that SO took Gallatin lightly at the beginning of the game takes away from how hard GC played. Gallatin did not fold when South jumped on top in the second half they fought back hard and retook the lead. If a foul is a foul at anytime Jones was fouled on an attempt late then fouled again on the put back with no call. Carlton then fouled out on that play on the rebound. It was a great game that was decided by the Refs and not the kids which is the most disappointing thing to me.

I'll make sure I see the tape tomorrow. At least the tape from the SO film. Can't wait. I only hope the crowd doesn't get in the way and blocks out the play.

 

Please let me know if you post it or if you know the link when it's posted.

 

You know, I'm not sure I really care much for the YouTube era as it pertains to HS sports. What good exactly has the Franklin County - Henry Clay video clip produced?? A lot of Franklin County fans who have reviewed it are more upset today than they were yesterday - and nothing can be changed.

 

Like every foul call ever made at any time during a game, this either was a good call or it wasn't - but regardless, it was called. There's no taking it back. Gallatin fans won't feel better if a video is produced that shows there was no contact on that final play. They'll feel worse.

 

Our sports world reflects society way too much. We don't want to be responsible; we want all bad things that happen to us to be someone else's fault.

You know, I'm not sure I really care much for the YouTube era as it pertains to HS sports. What good exactly has the Franklin County - Henry Clay video clip produced?? A lot of Franklin County fans who have reviewed it are more upset today than they were yesterday - and nothing can be changed.

 

Like every foul call ever made at any time during a game, this either was a good call or it wasn't - but regardless, it was called. There's no taking it back. Gallatin fans won't feel better if a video is produced that shows there was no contact on that final play. They'll feel worse.

 

Our sports world reflects society way too much. We don't want to be responsible; we want all bad things that happen to us to be someone else's fault.

I thought you were a radio guy and now I find out that you are a philosopher. When something is my fault I accept responsibility just like I expect everyone else to do including refs, kids adults or whoever. If I am Franklin Co. I feel way worse than GC did tonight because GC could still have lost the game in OT. If you don't put it on youtube doesn't take the sting away anymore it just might make someone more responsible for their actions.

Col.Mike I was expecting better from you. To diminish this great game by saying that SO took Gallatin lightly at the beginning of the game takes away from how hard GC played. Gallatin did not fold when South jumped on top in the second half they fought back hard and retook the lead. If a foul is a foul at anytime Jones was fouled on an attempt late then fouled again on the put back with no call. Carlton then fouled out on that play on the rebound. It was a great game that was decided by the Refs and not the kids which is the most disappointing thing to me.

 

Not intending disrespect of Gallatin at all. If you've read my posts throughout the year on Gallatin, you know I've been extremely high on this team, and I think Jon Jones is one of the best coaches around. Gallatin came out on fire and played well enough to win Monday night.

 

I also noted several times that I thought this game would be a close one...

 

Nor did I say that South's kids did take GC lightly, I said I "suspected" they did. I don't know that they did or didn't. In talking with Simpson before the game, he was getting this feeling from his kids. He was concerned that they had the previous game's score stuck in their heads. Maybe they didn't take GC lightly at all...but considering South's poor play at the beginning, I think it's definitely a possibility and the fact that they might have looked past Gallatin doesn't belittle Gallatin's effort one bit.

 

Regardless of how South's kids approached the game, Gallatin's early play in this game was outstanding.

 

There were definitely a few calls that could have gone either way, and during the game I saw a few puzzlers - like when Williamson fell on top of Jackson, who was diving on top of a ball, and Jackson got whistled for the foul. Weird. But it wasn't as if I saw a bunch of questionable calls all going one way. (but fans of a one of the two teams involved undoubtedly thought that all the calls were one-sided. Isn't that the way we're wired?) But I really don't think the game was decided by the refs.

 

Many things happen to a team during a game - most are within the control of the team. Bad calls usually pretty much even out between two teams. Any coach will tell you a bad call almost never decides a game. South could have made the final call irrelevant if they hit shots in the first. Gallatin could have made it irrelevant if they handled the ball better.

I thought you were a radio guy and now I find out that you are a philosopher. When something is my fault I accept responsibility just like I expect everyone else to do including refs, kids adults or whoever. If I am Franklin Co. I feel way worse than GC did tonight because GC could still have lost the game in OT. If you don't put it on youtube doesn't take the sting away anymore it just might make someone more responsible for their actions.

 

I'm multi-talented. :sssh:

I was at the game. Was not aware of any poor sportsmanship.

 

Not a big deal, but a few very loud individuals who I could actually hear all the way in the glass booth.

Not intending disrespect of Gallatin at all. If you've read my posts throughout the year on Gallatin, you know I've been extremely high on this team, and I think Jon Jones is one of the best coaches around. Gallatin came out on fire and played well enough to win Monday night.

 

I also noted several times that I thought this game would be a close one...

 

Nor did I say that South's kids did take GC lightly, I said I "suspected" they did. I don't know that they did or didn't. In talking with Simpson before the game, he was getting this feeling from his kids. He was concerned that they had the previous game's score stuck in their heads. Maybe they didn't take GC lightly at all...but considering South's poor play at the beginning, I think it's definitely a possibility and the fact that they might have looked past Gallatin doesn't belittle Gallatin's effort one bit.

 

Regardless of how South's kids approached the game, Gallatin's early play in this game was outstanding.

 

There were definitely a few calls that could have gone either way, and during the game I saw a few puzzlers - like when Williamson fell on top of Jackson, who was diving on top of a ball, and Jackson got whistled for the foul. Weird. But it wasn't as if I saw a bunch of questionable calls all going one way. (but fans of a one of the two teams involved undoubtedly thought that all the calls were one-sided. Isn't that the way we're wired?) But I really don't think the game was decided by the refs.

 

Many things happen to a team during a game - most are within the control of the team. Bad calls usually pretty much even out between two teams. Any coach will tell you a bad call almost never decides a game. South could have made the final call irrelevant if they hit shots in the first. Gallatin could have made it irrelevant if they handled the ball better.

A phantom call with 4 tenths of a second is deciding the game.

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