January 9, 201016 yr I know he had an offer from the Red Sox for $15.5 million before they pulled it. Reportedly the offer from the Blue Jays is $23 million.....lets just split the differenct and say $20 would sign him......Would you be for the Reds spending $20 million for him? It's a lot of money, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. But then again, I'd just increase the budget by $20 million, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask. :lol: I think it's worth a shot. Sign Chapman and have him as our 5th starter this year. If we're out of it by July, trade Harang AND Arroyo (instead of just one). Then we'll have Chapman, Cueto, Volquez & Bailey.
January 9, 201016 yr The maturity issues aren't a big concern to me. I think he'd do well in Cincinnati, with Soto, Volquez, Cueto, Cordero, et. al. Speaking of CoCo, the Reds could also deal him & free up additional money.
January 9, 201016 yr Were you reading ESPN or mlbtraderumors? http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4810996&name=olney_buster&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index%3fentryID%3d4810996%26name%3dolney_buster To review, Johnson made his major league debut at age 24, logged his first season of double-digit win totals at age 26. He led the American League in walks for three consecutive seasons. It wasn't until he was 29 that Johnson corralled his control issues; in 1993 (the year he threw over the head of John Kruk at the All-Star Game), Johnson struck out 308 and walked 99, and he went on to win five Cy Youngs. At age 21, he was raw, but greatness was possible because of his tool set. I'm not an insider, so I cannot read further. But, the point remains that Chapman is young & has a very special skill set. It goes on to say that, although he has a great arm, a lot of teams have decided that his control issues and on field demeanor will force him to pitch out of the bullpen.
January 9, 201016 yr The maturity issues aren't a big concern to me. I think he'd do well in Cincinnati, with Soto, Volquez, Cueto, Cordero, et. al. Speaking of CoCo, the Reds could also deal him & free up additional money. Not very much. There aren't many teams looking for a closer, they'd likely have to eat the majority of his contract in order to move him. Now, if a contender suffers an injury to their closer then it would be a good possiblility.
January 9, 201016 yr Author I know he had an offer from the Red Sox for $15.5 million before they pulled it. Reportedly the offer from the Blue Jays is $23 million.....lets just split the differenct and say $20 would sign him......Would you be for the Reds spending $20 million for him? I'm all for the Reds spending more money.
January 9, 201016 yr I'm all for the Reds spending more money. You're dancing around the question--and doing a heck of a job of it I must say. :lol::lol::lol: Okay, point blank. You are GM of the Reds. It will take $20 million to sign Chapman and you are given permission to do it. Would you spend $20 million on him? And don't give me any other scenarios. You have to make the call, what do you do?
January 9, 201016 yr You're dancing around the question--and doing a heck of a job of it I must say. :lol::lol::lol: Okay, point blank. You are GM of the Reds. It will take $20 million to sign Chapman and you are given permission to do it. Would you spend $20 million on him? And don't give me any other scenarios. You have to make the call, what do you do? The problem with your question is that, in order to sign someone for $20 million, there HAS to be other scenarios. The Reds can't sign Chapman and keep Arroyo, Harang and Cordero. The Reds can't (won't) increase their payroll by $20 million. At this point, Chapman is unproven. There are better $20 million options out there. But it would be a great addition to the organization.
January 9, 201016 yr The problem with your question is that, in order to sign someone for $20 million, there HAS to be other scenarios. The Reds can't sign Chapman and keep Arroyo, Harang and Cordero. The Reds can't (won't) increase their payroll by $20 million. At this point, Chapman is unproven. There are better $20 million options out there. But it would be a great addition to the organization. Let me clarify. By other scenarios I meant spending the money other ways. I mean if, as GM of the Reds, you were given permission to spend the $20 million on Chapman would you do it? Epecially considering the ramifications if you were wrong--either by signing him or passing.
January 9, 201016 yr Let me clarify. By other scenarios I meant spending the money other ways. I mean if, as GM of the Reds, you were given permission to spend the $20 million on Chapman would you do it? Epecially considering the ramifications if you were wrong--either by signing him or passing. $20 million is a lot, but I can't think of a better FA option for that price, RIGHT NOW. If this were an option, I'd consider holding off for a year & pursuing Albert Pujols. The thing about Chapman is that there is very little chance that his stock / trade value will drop. Sure, he may struggle, but teams are not going to give up on a young lefty who has that type of arm.
January 9, 201016 yr Author You're dancing around the question--and doing a heck of a job of it I must say. :lol::lol::lol: Okay, point blank. You are GM of the Reds. It will take $20 million to sign Chapman and you are given permission to do it. Would you spend $20 million on him? And don't give me any other scenarios. You have to make the call, what do you do? I tell the owner sometimes you have to spend money to make money. If I think it would improve our ballclub then yes I spend the money. We have several big contracts coming off the books in the next two years (Harang, Arroyo and Cordero). I'm confident if the Reds were to put a consistent winner on the field that the fans would come back, and generate more money. The Reds have to show that they are committed to winning.
January 9, 201016 yr $20 million is a lot, but I can't think of a better FA option for that price, RIGHT NOW. If this were an option, I'd consider holding off for a year & pursuing Albert Pujols. The thing about Chapman is that there is very little chance that his stock / trade value will drop. Sure, he may struggle, but teams are not going to give up on a young lefty who has that type of arm. I think that is the best move for the Reds. I don't think that they have any chance at Pujols but the free agent class for 2011 is a good one. I'm just afraid if they sink that much money into Chapman it would cripple them. Like the Olney article said it took Randy Johnson until he was 29 until he was able to develop his control. Let's just say Chapman did it even faster and gets it all together at 25. Then he's just a year away from arbitration and they probably can't keep him anyway. I think it would be a mistake for the Reds to spend this much money on this big of a risk. For what its worth, even though they are supposedly still involved in discussions, I'm not for the Red Sox spending that kind of money on him either. The Sox have pitching depth, both in the majors and minors and I'd rather spend that kind of money on someone whose output can be better projected. He's very intriguing. He'll either make some GMs career or get him fired......I'd hate to have my career hanging on that call.
January 10, 201016 yr Yahoo reporting that Chapman has possibly signed with Reds. Anyone have anymore info?? http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=As9CkWwyzEjLmZllsFbTQqA5nYcB?slug=jp-chapmansigns011010&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
January 10, 201016 yr John Fay confirms that the Reds are talking to Chapman and suspects that the deal could be as long as 10 years. http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/
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