LOS is the 20. Fullback dive. Gains 18 inches.

 

How many yards is the fullback credited with for that carry?

LOS is the 20. Fullback dive. Gains 18 inches.

 

How many yards is the fullback credited with for that carry?

 

It is "No Gain" or zero yards. You can't credit half yards. IF the same back carries for 2.5 yards on the next carry he has three yards, but if you credit him with a full yard on the previous carry on paper he would have four yards. You NEVER round up you always round down and you will always be closer to right.

 

For the sake of accuracy "No Gain" or zero yards is the correct stat.

It is "No Gain" or zero yards. You can't credit half yards. IF the same back carries for 2.5 yards on the next carry he has three yards, but if you credit him with a full yard on the previous carry on paper he would have four yards. You NEVER round up you always round down and you will always be closer to right.

 

For the sake of accuracy "No Gain" or zero yards is the correct stat.

 

What if he gets 18 inches on his next carry?

 

How many yards will be shown for his 2 carries?

LOS is the 20. Fullback dive. Gains 18 inches.

 

How many yards is the fullback credited with for that carry?

 

According to the stats manuals, it depends on where the ball is spotted. In your case, let's say the ball is touching the 20 on the snap. If at the end of the next play, the ball is spotted between the 21 and 22, then the ball is "scored" at the 22 yard line. Hence a two-yard gain. You aren't rounding, you are spotting. The only exception is a bit of a quirk. You can never "score" the ball where it would give a first down if a first down wasn't granted. So for example, let's say your play was a 2nd and 2 from the 20. The player only gained to between the 21 and 22, but did not get to the 22 to give him first down. Then you have to "score" the ball at the 21 and thus, give him only one yard. Same would be true on goal line. Bottom line is that the series cannot add up to ten yards if a first down isn't granted.

 

I know it sounds quirky, but that's in both NCAA and NFHS stats manuals and ensures consistency. It really has nothing to do with rounding, it is just looking at where the ball lays.

According to the stats manuals, it depends on where the ball is spotted. In your case, let's say the ball is touching the 20 on the snap. If at the end of the next play, the ball is spotted between the 21 and 22, then the ball is "scored" at the 22 yard line. Hence a two-yard gain.

 

So in my original example with the tip of the ball on the 20 and the fullback gains 18 inches (tip of ball now halfway between 20 and 21) are you saying he would be credited with one yard?

So in my original example with the tip of the ball on the 20 and the fullback gains 18 inches (tip of ball now halfway between 20 and 21) are you saying he would be credited with one yard?

 

It sounds to me like the first 18 inch gain would count as 1 yard and the second 18 inch gain would count as no gain. Therefore the two together would count as 1 yard (which it is).

While on this topic, please help with the option. If QB carries for say 8 yards, then pitches to tailback who gains 6 more, who gets the carry and the yards?

 

Same question when a receiver makes a catch for say 8 yards, then laterals to another WR for 10 more, who gets the reception and the yards?

 

Please and thank you.

While on this topic, please help with the option. If QB carries for say 8 yards, then pitches to tailback who gains 6 more, who gets the carry and the yards?

 

Same question when a receiver makes a catch for say 8 yards, then laterals to another WR for 10 more, who gets the reception and the yards?

 

Please and thank you.

 

Good questions

While on this topic, please help with the option. If QB carries for say 8 yards, then pitches to tailback who gains 6 more, who gets the carry and the yards?

 

Same question when a receiver makes a catch for say 8 yards, then laterals to another WR for 10 more, who gets the reception and the yards?

 

Please and thank you.

I may be wrong, but this is what I have heard. In the option situation, the QB gets credit for his yards, and the RB gets credit for his yards.

 

I the lateral situation, the WR get the catch and yards, then the lateral counts as rushing yards for the person who get the lateral.

Ram,

 

That makes common sense to me, but does the second carrier get credited with a carry? If so, you may have 20 plays from scrimmage and a total of 21 carries by individuals. Is that the way it should be?

Ram,

 

That makes common sense to me, but does the second carrier get credited with a carry? If so, you may have 20 plays from scrimmage and a total of 21 carries by individuals. Is that the way it should be?

That's the way I understand it, I have not seen a scorer's handbook, but I think that is the way most people count it.

From the NCAA 2008 FB stat. manual Art 2 and 4... The rules are the same for high school stats.

 

If the pitch is made within 1 yd of either side of the LOS then the RB gets credit for the entire play and yardage. If the QB runs down field and pitches he gets credit for a rushing attempt plus yardage and the RB gets no rushing attempt but credit for the rushing yardage after the pitch and the resulting TD if there is one scored.

 

The same is true for a "Hook and Ladder" play. Let's say the ball is on the 50 yd line. >QB completes a forward pass to WR1 for 10 yds who laterals(which is not a high school FB term) to WR2 for a TD.

>QB credited with completed pass for 50 yds and a TD

>WR1 10 yd reception

>WR2 50 yd TD from QB (no reception is credited for WR2)

 

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/Stats_Manuals/Football/2008%20Football%20Stats%20Manual.pdf

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While on this topic, please help with the option. If QB carries for say 8 yards, then pitches to tailback who gains 6 more, who gets the carry and the yards?

 

Same question when a receiver makes a catch for say 8 yards, then laterals to another WR for 10 more, who gets the reception and the yards?

 

Please and thank you.

 

 

To be specific, and using the NCAA reference (in this one, it happens that the NFHS stats manual says the same), the Qb gets 1 carry, plus his yards that go beyond the LOS. Then the tailback gets NO carry, but gets rushing yards. that way, there is only 1 carry (Rush attempt) on any play.

 

In your second, same thing. First guy gets teh reception and his yards. Second one doesn't get a reception, but gets receiving yards.

 

I think KHSAA sells the NFHS stats manual (I saw it on their web site). Covers several sports. Or you can use your own paper and download the NCAA manual.

Thanks to everyone...I think I have it.

Interesting that a runner could have zero carries but have rushing yardage.