October 26, 200817 yr I'm sure a number are "hoping for a job" in order to receive "compensation". However, from the profile of many of Obama's new voters (and a goodly number of his more "seasoned" voters), it is obvious that they want the latter without the burden of the former. To quote Hoot from another thread: Another internet chain letter. Wonderful basis for a serious debate. :thumb:
October 26, 200817 yr Wouldn't surprise me at all. The Obama supporters are probably hoping for a job... Nope, Just a handout.
October 26, 200817 yr What part of any of your post can you state are fact? Seriously! You can't possibly know whether all at a McCain rally work, and all that an Obama rally don't! What a gross generalization, and yet another example of why I am further repelled by the supposed "conservatives". You know, rockmom, if you keep your eyes open and observe, some truths are obvious. This is one of them. To really believe otherwise is ridiculous- although probably quite politically correct.
October 26, 200817 yr So, these are blanket statements that you stand by, is that what you are saying? These are facts that you know, and people like me, who choose to vote for Obama, are simply blind. Is that what you're saying? I understand you to say that if I were to attend an Obama rally, it would be because I have no job. And, I'm voting for him because I want a hand out. Is that what you're saying?
October 27, 200817 yr So, these are blanket statements that you stand by, is that what you are saying? These are facts that you know, and people like me, who choose to vote for Obama, are simply blind. Is that what you're saying? I understand you to say that if I were to attend an Obama rally, it would be because I have no job. And, I'm voting for him because I want a hand out. Is that what you're saying? Don't spin what I said, rockmom. I did not say all who support Obama are jobless people looking for handouts. I actually know a good many employed people who will vote as will you. Let me say it in a more direct way. If only those who actually pay income taxes and contribute to the system (thus being the ones who are, in reality, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty) were allowed to vote, McCain would win by a large margin. Surely, no one can doubt that this is true. Now, Obama will get a decent minority of the votes of that group. However, his margin of victory will be from those who are not a part of that group (ie: What is in it for me that won't require me to do anything of an active nature other than vote a time or two?).
October 27, 200817 yr Don't spin what I said, rockmom. I did not say all who support Obama are jobless people looking for handouts. I actually know a good many employed people who will vote as will you. Let me say it in a more direct way. If only those who actually pay income taxes and contribute to the system (thus being the ones who are, in reality, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty) were allowed to vote, McCain would win by a large margin. Surely, no one can doubt that this is true. Now, Obama will get a decent minority of the votes of that group. However, his margin of victory will be from those who are not a part of that group (ie: What is in it for me that won't require me to do anything of an active nature other than vote a time or two?). In addition to the groups that you described, Obama is likely to win big among self-serving government bureaucrats. A vote for Obama is a vote for big government.
October 27, 200817 yr In addition to the groups that you described, Obama is likely to win big among self-serving government bureaucrats. A vote for Obama is a vote for big government. Very true. Those bureaucrats and individuals of a similar mindset are the ones I was referring to in the "decent minority" group. I have always been troubled by those who want everyone to vote. The result of these efforts (get out the vote) is that, when these unmotivated, uninformed, takers from the system vote, they decide the outcome of the election. I, on the other hand, believe that, if you don't have enopugh gumption to get out and vote on election day or if you aren't at least involved enough to get a legitimate absentee ballot, you don't deserve to vote.
October 27, 200817 yr ^As federal taxpayers approach minority status, our democratic institutions will face increasingly more dangerous threats. Some people do not seem to understand that the private sector finances the public sector and that we cannot all be government employees.
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