October 6, 200818 yr Give it up. The County Clerk conducts the class and believe me he is versed in the laws in the State of Kentucky . Like I said this came up a couple of election cycles ago and the law is the same now as it was then . It is nothing new . By the way if was a Bunning shirt and it was a republican poll worker that questioned it's legality .Give what up? The County Court Clerk's interpretation of law is not final. Neither is the Attorney General's, nor is the state's Sec. of State. If this issue has already been decided in court, then the issue is moot. Otherwise, it is open for interpretation by those applying the law. I am also interested in hearing Hearsay's opinion on this issue. It is really not a big issue for me because I do not wear campaign slogans myself and I do not see it as a big deal regardless of which interpretation is correct.
October 6, 200818 yr You're not going to a football game, you don't need to be wearing something in support of your candidate, your vote takes care of that. I wouldn't even think of wearing something in support of the candidate I'm voting for at the polls, in fact I'd be embarrassed to. I'd be embarrsaaed if I were supporting your candidate too.
October 6, 200818 yr There is no church I know of that permits non-members or those with openly divergent beliefs the opportunity to vote on policy matters. This is no different. If you're not going to pay tax dollars, you shouldn't expect to have an equal say in how the tax dollars others pay are spent. Bingo!!! Those who don't pay income taxes are not members. INS should round them up and dump them in the ocean. Social security taxes? No! To the ocean. Capital gains taxes? No! To the ocean. Sales taxes? No! To the ocean. Make this country safe for the right kind of people.
October 6, 200818 yr I do not believe that a private citizen wearing a hat, button or shirt would be considered electioneering at the polls, nor, in my opinion, should it be. However, you cannot talk to others at the polling place about your support of a candidate, that would be considered electioneering. The statute is KRS 17.235. Incidentally, I was wrong, it is 300 feet, not 100 feet, and the old law was declared unconstitutional by the federal district court in 2002, and Grayson got it changed before the elections in 2006. I WANT TO CAVEAT THIS ONE BY STATING THAT THERE IS NO KENTUCKY CASE DIRECTLY ADDRESSING THE HATS, SHIRTS, BUTTONS ISSUE, THAT THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE LEGAL ADVICE, AND THAT RELIANCE THEREON IS CAVEAT EMPTOR. Just in case one of you gets arrested for wearing a button in the polling place.:lol::lol:
October 6, 200818 yr I'd be embarrsaaed if I were supporting your candidate too. As I read down through this thread I was wondering who was going to hit that softball out of the park.
October 6, 200818 yr Funny story Senator Bunning and his wife Mary vote in the Southgate precinct where I work , So does Katie Stine President pro-tem of the Kentucky Senate and her husband who is a judge . The same republican poll worker who questioned the wearing of the Bunning campaign shirt has in the past challenged all four of them for some indentification before allowing them to sign the eligable voters list . You really only have to do this if you dont know who the people are . Some of the other poll workers me included had to explain to this woman who they were after they left the polling place because it still hadn't sunk into her who she was asking for ID from . This lady is only in her late 50's so her age couldn't be an excuse only density of mind .
October 6, 200818 yr Bingo!!! Those who don't pay income taxes are not members. INS should round them up and dump them in the ocean. Social security taxes? No! To the ocean. Capital gains taxes? No! To the ocean. Sales taxes? No! To the ocean. Make this country safe for the right kind of people.:lol: :lol: :lol: Too much... :lol: Many of the early American colonies levied Poll Taxes as they became states as a form of revenue generation. There were no serious qualms about this requirement among the founding fathers. This form of equitable taxation predated the bigoted and biased poll taxes initiated in the American South following the Civil War to prevent the poor and especially the ethnic poor from casting their ballots. I'm a bit surprised that no one pointed out that the 24th Amendment outlawed taxation as a prerequisite for voting in the United States in 1964... I thought Habib would be all over this one. But hey, I've enjoyed the dialogue. :thumb:
October 6, 200818 yr Author :lol: :lol: :lol: Too much... :lol: Many of the early American colonies levied Poll Taxes as they became states as a form of revenue generation. There were no serious qualms about this requirement among the founding fathers. This form of equitable taxation predated the bigoted and biased poll taxes initiated in the American South following the Civil War. I'm a bit surprised that no one pointed out that the 24th Amendment outlawed taxation as a prerequisite for voting in the United States in 1964... but I've enjoyed the dialogue. :thumb: We assumed that the Constitution was null and void at this point of the argument anyway.
October 6, 200818 yr We assumed that the Constitution was null and void at this point of the argument anyway. :lol: :lol: :lol: Nah... I actually love our Constitution. It is perhaps the single greatest political document drafted in the history of mankind. What I do have a problem with are pathetic pandering politicians willing to spend our hard earned money like sailors on shore leave, just so they can curry favor with the special interests that help them keep their power. A very good percentage of these clowns would be unable to hold down a legitimate job at a decent company, and we're paying them far above the the average American wage to squander our tax dollars. I'm sickened by almost all of them, on both sides of the aisle. I'm not a huge McCain fan, Obama's a poser, and no third party candidate has the traction to effect change. We're screwed any way we go. IMO, it's just a matter of whether we're going to be screwed faster with Obama or more slowly with McCain.
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