August 19, 200818 yr Utecht is a top 5-8 TE? Not really close, but he is a under rated TE that will be a very very good 4th option for Palmer to go to across the middle. Edited August 19, 200818 yr by SirMixAlot
August 19, 200818 yr Not really close, but he is a under rated TE that will be a very very good 4th option for Palmer to go to across the middle. I can name quite a few TE's I'd take over Utecht. Gonzo Gates Shockey Witten Clark Winslow Vernon Davis Owen Daniels Cooley HeathMiller Donald Lee...
August 19, 200818 yr I can name quite a few TE's I'd take over Utecht. Gonzo Gates Shockey Witten Clark Winslow Vernon Davis Owen Daniels Cooley HeathMiller Donald Lee... :thumb:, Maybe I should of clarified that I agreed with you, he is a solid TE but no where near top 5 or even 10. But he adds something to the Bengals that they needed a TE that is able to catch the football.
August 19, 200818 yr Well for starters it is a whole lot more healthier and the secondary is improved, Geathers and Odom will be able to put pressure on the QB. There problem will be stopping the run, but If the offense is as good as it should be, they will force a lot of people to pass more than they would like with all the scoring they will be doing. I agree though, if the offense doesn't play well, they will be in some trouble. Last years defense was on the field over 35 minutes a game, that is way to long for any defense for to be effective. I'm not so sure I'd be expecting Geathers and Odom to dominate rushing the passer. Last year they combined for a total of 12 sacks. That's not even top 5 for a single player last year...
August 19, 200818 yr ^Considering the fact that Utecht has never been given a chance to be the #1 TE, I don't know how you rank him.
August 19, 200818 yr Whoever said the Bengals could start 2-6 is right on the money. Sure they could steal a game or two here and there, but this season could go downhill really fast.
August 19, 200818 yr I'm not so sure I'd be expecting Geathers and Odom to dominate rushing the passer. Last year they combined for a total of 12 sacks. That's not even top 5 for a single player last year... Tell me where I said they will be dominate, But in Geathers defense he was being doubled all last year, these two should be able to put consistent pressure on oppisng teams QB's.
August 19, 200818 yr ^Considering the fact that Utecht has never been given a chance to be the #1 TE, I don't know how you rank him. I'm not sure how anyone could say he's a top 5-8 TE. If you want to try and justify that, go ahead. I didn't rank him btw, I just said there are a lot of TE's I'd rather have.
August 19, 200818 yr Tell me where I said they will be dominate, But in Geathers defense he was being doubled all last year, these two should be able to put consistent pressure on oppisng teams QB's. You said they would put pressure on opposing QB's and I'm not so sure that they will be able to consistently do that. They weren't all that great last year...
August 19, 200818 yr You said they would put pressure on opposing QB's and I'm not so sure that they will be able to consistently do that. They weren't all that great last year... Odom had 8 sacks on one of the best D-Lines in all of football, I'd say he did a pretty good job, Geathers was the only D-Line the bengals had last year that could rush the passer, Justin Smith was a good run stopping DE, but couldn't rush the passer effectivly, thus enabling teams two double Geathers, I think you will see an increase in his number of sacks, plus the new coordinator is more agressive so you will see a lot more blitzing from the bengals. And yes I think the Bengals will be able to put pressure on the QB this year, stopping the run will be the defense's problem.
August 19, 200818 yr I'm not sure how anyone could say he's a top 5-8 TE. If you want to try and justify that, go ahead. I didn't rank him btw, I just said there are a lot of TE's I'd rather have. Where did I ever say that you did?
August 19, 200818 yr Odom had 8 sacks on one of the best D-Lines in all of football, I'd say he did a pretty good job, Geathers was the only D-Line the bengals had last year that could rush the passer, Justin Smith was a good run stopping DE, but couldn't rush the passer effectivly, thus enabling teams two double Geathers, I think you will see an increase in his number of sacks, plus the new coordinator is more agressive so you will see a lot more blitzing from the bengals. And yes I think the Bengals will be able to put pressure on the QB this year, stopping the run will be the defense's problem. I'm just not all that impressed with Odom or Geathers (especially Geathers) right now. I don't think they will be able to pressure the Qb all that well and I don't think the Bengals secondary is good enough to give them a lot of time to get to the QB.
August 19, 200818 yr Where did I ever say that you did? ^Considering the fact that Utecht has never been given a chance to be the #1 TE, I don't know how you rank him. There?
August 19, 200818 yr I'm just not all that impressed with Odom or Geathers (especially Geathers) right now. I don't think they will be able to pressure the Qb all that well and I don't think the Bengals secondary is good enough to give them a lot of time to get to the QB. This just looks like a classic example of agreeing to disagree.:fight: BTW
August 19, 200818 yr This just looks like a classic example of agreeing to disagree.:fight: I'll believe that Odom and Geathers will do well at pressuring the QB, when I see it.
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