On Wednesday, I made the drive to Lexington from northern Kentucky to watch this premiere early round game. Anyway, my question is simple, what was being said to the Henry Clay coach that made him keep asking for security...he kept telling them to listen and "please remove them from the gym?" I was sitting right behind the scorer's table and did not hear anything...and was surprised that he was so distracted by this? Anyone have a clue what was being said?

Guyn is a good athlete, quick, fantastic leaper, short range jumper. But kind of one dimensional player on the court. I heard he was upset he wasn't getting enough playing time at HC. (Although he was starting as a freshman.) All I can say about GeLawn and Henry Clay, is there is a LOT more to the the story than most have heard. (Here's a hint, think Alex Legion and UK.)

 

I am not sure what the issue with Henry Clay is under Brown. Both of his 2 years, they have lost their best player to injury. But I have heard him on the radio saying that is not an excuse. Maybe it was a coaching change, that the players/coaches never adjusted to each other? This senior group were freshmen when Henry Clay last made the sweet 16. I think Moses, Boyd, and maybe Nichols played varsity that year. Maybe they felt they had already achieved something, I don't know. After they redistricted the 11th/8th, Scott has beat HC 3 straight years in district.

 

I think he has a couple of more years before any pressure is really on him. They will be very young next year and rebuilding. My the time their freshman team is junior/senior, they should be right back at the top. Scott may be down next year, but not by much. Phares is going to be candidate for Mr Basketball. Bryan Station will be down, so that will be Henry Clays best chance to get out of district.

 

I agree with the above poster about Lexington Middle School development. It is horrible. They only play about 13 games over 2 months. Nothing else before middle school. Scott and Mason's kids play together in school or AAU from the time they are 8-10 years old. So by the time they hit high school, they already know each other and how to play together. It takes the Lexington kids 2 years of high school to even catch up. There has been a lot of raw talent in Lexington over the years, that was never fully developed.

 

Is the only option for Lexington Elementary kids to play in Upward Bound leagues? How can you not have elementary school basketball teams? That is just crazy.

Does Catholic and LCA field elementary teams?

Sounds to me like the only option is to move to Georgetown.

 

From what I have seen and heard of Brown, and what I have seen and heard of Guyn, I think it is pretty obvious what the problem was. I will give you one guess, and it is not Guyn.

On Wednesday, I made the drive to Lexington from northern Kentucky to watch this premiere early round game. Anyway, my question is simple, what was being said to the Henry Clay coach that made him keep asking for security...he kept telling them to listen and "please remove them from the gym?" I was sitting right behind the scorer's table and did not hear anything...and was surprised that he was so distracted by this? Anyone have a clue what was being said?

 

It appears he has a few screws loose. The last two meetings with Scott Co. he has been very disrespectful to Coach Hicks and their team. I understand he had a finger in Gelawn's face after the game saying something to him. Doesn't seem like the guy has any class.

With or without Moses getting hurt, Henry Clay was still stacked with athletes. Stewart and Nichols are both very athletic in the backcourt. In the front court Boyd, Moses, Gardner, #34?, Brightwell were all very big athletic and skilled. If you watch those guys in warmups they put on a show dunking the ball and showing how athletic they are. They just aren't a very fundamentally sound group.

Guyn is a good athlete, quick, fantastic leaper, short range jumper. But kind of one dimensional player on the court. I heard he was upset he wasn't getting enough playing time at HC. (Although he was starting as a freshman.) All I can say about GeLawn and Henry Clay, is there is a LOT more to the the story than most have heard. (Here's a hint, think Alex Legion and UK.)

 

I am not sure what the issue with Henry Clay is under Brown. Both of his 2 years, they have lost their best player to injury. But I have heard him on the radio saying that is not an excuse. Maybe it was a coaching change, that the players/coaches never adjusted to each other? This senior group were freshmen when Henry Clay last made the sweet 16. I think Moses, Boyd, and maybe Nichols played varsity that year. Maybe they felt they had already achieved something, I don't know. After they redistricted the 11th/8th, Scott has beat HC 3 straight years in district.

 

I think he has a couple of more years before any pressure is really on him. They will be very young next year and rebuilding. My the time their freshman team is junior/senior, they should be right back at the top. Scott may be down next year, but not by much. Phares is going to be candidate for Mr Basketball. Bryan Station will be down, so that will be Henry Clays best chance to get out of district.

 

I agree with the above poster about Lexington Middle School development. It is horrible. They only play about 13 games over 2 months. Nothing else before middle school. Scott and Mason's kids play together in school or AAU from the time they are 8-10 years old. So by the time they hit high school, they already know each other and how to play together. It takes the Lexington kids 2 years of high school to even catch up. There has been a lot of raw talent in Lexington over the years, that was never fully developed.

 

One dimensional or not, I believe everyone in the state would love having a kid like that! He is very athletic! Its going to be interesting to see how good he will become the next couple years.

BellAlummi40 - who are you referring to that has "a few screws loose"?

For those wanting to know what happened, I was at the game on Wednesday night.

 

Gelawns dad and another SC parent sat 3 rows behind the HC bench. They yelled profanities all night at specific HC players, the HC coaches, and their fans. I had several SC friends that sat behind the HC bench. One lady from SC had 2 small children and had to move during the game due to the profanity. She asked Mr Guyn to stop cursing, but he wouldn't. At some point the HC coach asked security to have them moved to another area of the gym.

 

After the game, Gelawns dad got into a shouting match with a mom from HC. Mr Guyn was thought her son had fouled Gelawn hard during the game and was upset. I was standing about 3 feet away and saw the entire incident. It escalated quickly, and several folks stepped in to prevent anything physical. Also, security stepped in and cleared the gym.

 

As adults, we need to set examples for these young men and women on the court. It is the game of basketball. It is supposed to be a sport and entertainment.

BellAlummi40 - who are you referring to that has "a few screws loose"?

 

Brown.

For those wanting to know what happened, I was at the game on Wednesday night.

 

Gelawns dad and another SC parent sat 3 rows behind the HC bench. They yelled profanities all night at specific HC players, the HC coaches, and their fans. I had several SC friends that sat behind the HC bench. One lady from SC had 2 small children and had to move during the game due to the profanity. She asked Mr Guyn to stop cursing, but he wouldn't. At some point the HC coach asked security to have them moved to another area of the gym.

 

After the game, Gelawns dad got into a shouting match with a mom from HC. Mr Guyn was thought her son had fouled Gelawn hard during the game and was upset. I was standing about 3 feet away and saw the entire incident. It escalated quickly, and several folks stepped in to prevent anything physical. Also, security stepped in and cleared the gym.

 

As adults, we need to set examples for these young men and women on the court. It is the game of basketball. It is supposed to be a sport and entertainment.

 

What does Gelawn's dad have to do with anything?

What does Gelawn's dad have to do with anything?

 

:thumb: If you want to go around the gym and find parents you could report something negative every night. Its personal for them. This thread should actually be about the game.

For those wanting to know what happened, I was at the game on Wednesday night.

 

Gelawns dad and another SC parent sat 3 rows behind the HC bench. They yelled profanities all night at specific HC players, the HC coaches, and their fans. I had several SC friends that sat behind the HC bench. One lady from SC had 2 small children and had to move during the game due to the profanity. She asked Mr Guyn to stop cursing, but he wouldn't. At some point the HC coach asked security to have them moved to another area of the gym.

 

After the game, Gelawns dad got into a shouting match with a mom from HC. Mr Guyn was thought her son had fouled Gelawn hard during the game and was upset. I was standing about 3 feet away and saw the entire incident. It escalated quickly, and several folks stepped in to prevent anything physical. Also, security stepped in and cleared the gym.

 

As adults, we need to set examples for these young men and women on the court. It is the game of basketball. It is supposed to be a sport and entertainment.

 

Game being the operative word...

Sorry BellAlumni40, but I personally have known Coach Brown for some time.

 

Frankly, he is one of the most honest, ethical, people I know. He has his priorities straight when it comes to education, basketball, life and teaching kids how to grow up to be fine adults. He is a strict disciplinarian, who tries to teach kids right from wrong. He does not tolerate anything out of line off the court, regardless of how talented you are on the court. Over the years, I have seen him personally take kids from severely broken homes and mentor them, and work with them. He cares so much about kids; I am ashamed that you would say what you did, just because you evidently happen to be a fan from another school.

 

I have played basketball, my kids have played basketball, and I have been around high school coaches for 30+ years now. Coach Brown and his staff are some of the finest individuals I have ever been around. Yes, he is intense during games, but most coaches are. I mean, do you not think Hicks is pretty intense? How about Feldhaus at Madison central?

 

But next time, you should know a little about a person before you start characterizing them as "have a few screws loose". You owe Coach Brown and his staff an apology.

Game being the operative word...

 

I can see that subtlety isn't going to get me anywhere.

 

Back to the game, please.

Sorry BellAlumni40, but I personally have known coach brown for some time.

 

Frankly, he is one of the most honest, ethical, people I know. He has his priorities straight when it comes to education, basketball, life and teaching kids how to grow up to be fine adults. He is a strict disciplinarian, who tries to teach kids right from wrong. He does not tolerate anything out of line off the court, regardless of how talented you are on the court. Over the years, I have seen him personally take kids from severely broken homes and mentor them, and work with them. He cares so much about kids; I am ashamed that you would say what you did, just because you evidently happen to be a fan from another school.

 

I have played basketball, my kids have played basketball, and I have been around high school coaches for 30+ years now. Coach Brown and his staff are some of the finest individuals I have ever been around. Yes, he is intense during games, but most coaches are. I mean, do you not think Hicks is pretty intense? How about Feldhaus at Madison central?

 

But next time, you should know a little about a person before you start characterizing them as "have a few screws loose". You owe Coach Brown and his staff an apology.

 

 

I can't speak for my buddy, but as someone who watches a lot of games in this area, in the last 3 years Henry Clay has been the most underachieving of all the teams I have seen. He maybe a great guy, but I believe they really underachieve.

Sorry BellAlumni40, but I personally have known Coach Brown for some time.

 

Frankly, he is one of the most honest, ethical, people I know. He has his priorities straight when it comes to education, basketball, life and teaching kids how to grow up to be fine adults. He is a strict disciplinarian, who tries to teach kids right from wrong. He does not tolerate anything out of line off the court, regardless of how talented you are on the court. Over the years, I have seen him personally take kids from severely broken homes and mentor them, and work with them. He cares so much about kids; I am ashamed that you would say what you did, just because you evidently happen to be a fan from another school.

 

I have played basketball, my kids have played basketball, and I have been around high school coaches for 30+ years now. Coach Brown and his staff are some of the finest individuals I have ever been around. Yes, he is intense during games, but most coaches are. I mean, do you not think Hicks is pretty intense? How about Feldhaus at Madison central?

 

But next time, you should know a little about a person before you start characterizing them as "have a few screws loose". You owe Coach Brown and his staff an apology.

 

No matter what he does away from the court, he should act like he has it together on the court. Good for him if he does those things. Coach Hicks and Coach Feldhaus dont taunt and berate the other team and coaches, they show a little respect. Not to mention they have their team under control in that they actually run offenses and set plays. As I have stated many times, a big part of Henry Clay's lack of success would appear to be they have no semblance of order on the floor on offense. It's one on one every time down the floor.

 

I am from Bell Co. I live in Lexington and like to watch games in the 11th region. It's nothing about being a "fan" of anyone.

 

I apologize to NO ONE for my opinions.