February 8, 200818 yr http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/07/congress.economy/index.html here is the link but I saw McCain didnt vote on CNN. The Senate accord -- reached after days of bickering and passed 81-16 -- keeps the House-passed rebate check amounts of $300 to $600 for people who have an income between $3,000 and $75,000, plus $300 per child. Couples earning up to $150,000 would get $1,200. But the plan also gives checks to more than 20 million Social Security beneficiaries and 250,000 handicapped veterans and their widows. I saw that McCain did not vote on CNN. They had viewers responses that veterans felt betrayed b/c McCain did not vote (dont know if he voted NO or if he abstained). This could be a major point moving forward since McCain has alienated his veterans for the sake of politics.
February 8, 200818 yr Last I heard he was supposed to be flying back to Washington but his schedule was so tight that it wasn't clear if he would be able to make it back in time to vote.
February 8, 200818 yr I believe he simply wasn't in Washington to vote. IMO he should have voted but I don't think it is a sign of him abandoning veterans, nor will they take it that way. I think it would be very difficult for McCain to lose the veteran vote.
February 8, 200818 yr Author I believe he simply wasn't in Washington to vote. IMO he should have voted but I don't think it is a sign of him abandoning veterans, nor will they take it that way. I think it would be very difficult for McCain to lose the veteran vote. It was on CNN & Cafferty's viewer thing & many veterans said they were betrayed. I dont know but it could be spun this way... A. McCain was WAY AHEAD on 2/7 & had the nomination all but wrapped up. B. This is the most important bill that has been passed in a while (stimulus package) C. It included veterans benefits D. he is still a Senator that did not vote on the Biggest bill & issue to the US economy. E. He did not vote...... While he may not lose that many votes, he sure won't gain any support either
February 8, 200818 yr It was on CNN & Cafferty's viewer thing & many veterans said they were betrayed. I dont know but it could be spun this way... A. McCain was WAY AHEAD on 2/7 & had the nomination all but wrapped up. B. This is the most important bill that has been passed in a while (stimulus package) C. It included veterans benefits D. he is still a Senator that did not vote on the Biggest bill & issue to the US economy. E. He did not vote...... While he may not lose that many votes, he sure won't gain any support either Agreed, and the people who will spin that is just the media, who I don't know if the veterans listen to anyways.
February 8, 200818 yr Author Agreed, and the people who will spin that is just the media, who I don't know if the veterans listen to anyways. Very true but it could be a key point in a Presidential Debate. Supporting the war but not additional veterans benefits.
February 8, 200818 yr Given the alternatives, few veterans who support McCain are going to switch their allegiance based on McCain missing a vote while campaigning. There are plenty of reasons to be opposed to McCain, but failure to support the military and veterans is not among them. McCain is one of the best friends that our troops and veterans have in the federal government.
February 8, 200818 yr Author Given the alternatives, few veterans who support McCain are going to switch their allegiance based on McCain missing a vote while campaigning. There are plenty of reasons to be opposed to McCain, but failure to support the military and veterans is not among them. McCain is one of the best friends that our troops and veterans have in the federal government. What about moderates and independents that have to decide between Obama/Clinton and McCain. Could this be an issue that favors the dems?
February 8, 200818 yr Even as someone who could sure use the money, this whole plan is a huge mistake, IMO.
February 8, 200818 yr Author Even as someone who could sure use the money, this whole plan is a huge mistake, IMO. After passing the Senate, I feel pretty good that I'll get a check. So, I decided to take the Presidents advise and splurge. I just recently made a splurge for Barack Obama!!! probably not what they wanted me to do with my rebate check but oh well.
February 8, 200818 yr IMO, this is shortsighted, and no long-term solution. Frankly, I'm sick of bandaids.
February 8, 200818 yr What about moderates and independents that have to decide between Obama/Clinton and McCain. Could this be an issue that favors the dems?McCain has staff that can count votes. His vote was not needed. I am sure that he will be asked very soon how he would have voted. How he chooses to answer that question could gain or lose him some votes, but missing a vote will not hurt him, IMO. John Kerry has already proven that many people will vote for a candidate who is a frequent no-show in the US Senate.
February 8, 200818 yr Author McCain has staff that can count votes. His vote was not needed. I am sure that he will be asked very soon how he would have voted. How he chooses to answer that question could gain or lose him some votes, but missing a vote will not hurt him, IMO. John Kerry has already proven that many people will vote for a candidate who is a frequent no-show in the US Senate. very true, this may be a mute issue but with the economy in this shape & people trying to rally both sides for support, it could be a touchy situation for him.
February 8, 200818 yr IMO, this is shortsighted, and no long-term solution. Frankly, I'm sick of bandaids. I truly believe that what the President, Congress and the Senate are doing, will not help the economy. Me, I will put ours in the bank. Many more will pay off debt, and maybe some will catch up on the bills they are behind on. I just don't think many will do what the Government is hoping for, and that is run out to the stores and but stuff. I just don't think that many people are sure enough of the economy at the present time, to just go out and blow the money!
February 8, 200818 yr I believe that people, especially those who are strapped right now, are going to take the safe bet and pay down, or pay off some debt. Even if everyone splurged, I don't think anyone believes it would spur some sort of longterm economic growth.
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