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Why haven't UK fans learned from the football program?

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UK fans wanted to run Rich Brooks out of town after his first year and even his second, knowing full well they were hit by probation, recruiting had taken a hit, and fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC. Problems were brought on by a former coach.

 

Fast forward to the basketball program. UK fans are calling for BCG's head midway through the first season, knowing their recruiting wasn't where it should be, fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC, and trying to overcome problems brought on by a former coach.

 

There were some UK fans who said "Wait until Brooks gets his own players in and runs his full system." They were right. Back to back 8-5 seasons and bowl wins.

 

Why aren't the basketball fans as patient, when the two situations are so similar?

UK fans wanted to run Rich Brooks out of town after his first year and even his second, knowing full well they were hit by probation, recruiting had taken a hit, and fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC. Problems were brought on by a former coach.

 

Fast forward to the basketball program. UK fans are calling for BCG's head midway through the first season, knowing their recruiting wasn't where it should be, fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC, and trying to overcome problems brought on by a former coach.

 

There were some UK fans who said "Wait until Brooks gets his own players in and runs his full system." They were right. Back to back 8-5 seasons and bowl wins.

 

Why aren't the basketball fans as patient, when the two situations are so similar?

 

It isn't like Tubby left Billy G a bunch of 1 and 2 star recruits. This team won over 20 games last season. They started off A LOT better than 6-7. Sure the injuries have hurt them but still. Sure, give Billy G time, but I don't think he will come close to the success Tubby had at UK...

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It isn't like Tubby left Billy G a bunch of 1 and 2 star recruits. This team won over 20 games last season. They started off A LOT better than 6-7. Sure the injuries have hurt them but still. Sure, give Billy G time, but I don't think he will come close to the success Tubby had at UK...

THIS team didn't win 20 games last year. The team with Morris, without Patterson, and with a different coach did.

UK fans wanted to run Rich Brooks out of town after his first year and even his second, knowing full well they were hit by probation, recruiting had taken a hit, and fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC. Problems were brought on by a former coach.

 

Fast forward to the basketball program. UK fans are calling for BCG's head midway through the first season, knowing their recruiting wasn't where it should be, fielding a team of players not up to standards of the SEC, and trying to overcome problems brought on by a former coach.

 

There were some UK fans who said "Wait until Brooks gets his own players in and runs his full system." They were right. Back to back 8-5 seasons and bowl wins.

 

Why aren't the basketball fans as patient, when the two situations are so similar?

 

 

Back in the day I said we should sign Rich Brooks to a lifetime Contract...Everyone said I was Crazy...:D

We also were not a household name program in football. Expectations and results are/were different for the two sports. NC did not waste a lot of time when they were getting mediocre a few years ago. We have won games the last few years, but have not had the desired results and everyone is just getting frustrated with the wait.

I guess expectations. The football team wins 8games and were thrilled. If the basketball team dont make the final 4 or win 25games and win the SEC its disapointing to alot.

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There wasn't a lot of interest in the UK job when Brooks got it. Third choice I think? The same can be said for the UK basketball job. Donovan turned it down. Wasn't BCG the third choice also? More similar than one would think.

THIS team didn't win 20 games last year. The team with Morris, without Patterson, and with a different coach did.

 

But people act like Tubby left UK with nothing. If Tubby was coaching this team they would not be 6-7 right now. There is just no way. Tubby is a far better coach than Billy G.

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I guess expectations. The football team wins 8games and were thrilled. If the basketball team dont make the final 4 or win 25games and win the SEC its disapointing to alot.

Wouldn't eight wins and a bowl win in football be the equivalent to a final eight or final four in basketball?

Wouldn't eight wins and a bowl win in football be the equivalent to a final eight or final four in basketball?

 

That would be like 20 wins and a Sweet 16 or second round birth...

 

10-12 wins, and a BIG bowl win are equivalent to a final four or elite eight...

But people act like Tubby left UK with nothing. If Tubby was coaching this team they would not be 6-7 right now. There is just no way. Tubby is a far better coach than Billy G.

 

You can't say that though. You have no evidence that if Tubby was the coach the team wouldnt be 6-7. He's not the coach at UK anymore....get over it.

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But people act like Tubby left UK with nothing. If Tubby was coaching this team they would not be 6-7 right now. There is just no way. Tubby is a far better coach than Billy G.

I'm not bringing Tubby into the equation. Tubby is gone. My question is why aren't the basketball fans being patient after seeing what happened with the football program and their new coach. Stop making this a Tubby vs. BCG thread.

I think its just because people remember the glory days of the 90's and now thats what they expect every year, but its not realistic. The football team is getting to the point where bowl games are expected and missing out on one wouldn't be good. Once something good happens for UK, many fans will always expect that again every season even if its not realistic

You can't say that though. You have no evidence that if Tubby was the coach the team wouldnt be 6-7. He's not the coach at UK anymore....get over it.

 

I know he isn't, I'm just saying if he was then they wouldn't be 6-7. No I don't have evidence, but Tubby never did start of 6-7 and lose to Gardner-Webb at Rupp.

 

I'm not bringing Tubby into the equation. Tubby is gone. My question is why aren't the basketball fans being patient after seeing what happened with the football program and their new coach. Stop making this a Tubby vs. BCG thread.

 

I'm just saying. I know he is gone, but he is a lot better coach than Billy G. Because Kentucky basketball fans can't be patient. It's impossible. Football is different. If UK football has the success that UK basketball has, then it would be different...

Human nature. Recency theory. We struggle to believe that things will be different than they are now.

 

And its certainly not limited to UK fans. Just look at UofL.

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