The problems that we are seeing with illegal immigrants has nothing to do with God. We are being punished for electing corrupt politicians who violate their oaths to protect this nation and uphold our Constitution. God did not elect the imbeciles who are governing this country - we did.

 

That's a proud statement to suggest that God is not in complete control of everything that happens within this country. I agree with one of your statements though, we are being punished.

What you are refering to, are the prophecies. Mosaic law was all but made obselete by the coming of the Jesua.

That's a proud statement to suggest that God is not in complete control of everything that happens within this country. I agree with one of your statements though, we are being punished.

I believe that God endowed each of us with free will. Our lives, and those of our fellow countrymen are the result of how we choose to exercise that free will. If God chose to exercise control of all of our actions, then it would be illogical to think that He would then punish us for doing things over which we had no control.

What you are refering to, are the prophecies. Mosaic law was all but made obselete by the coming of the Jesua.

 

I guess the ten commandments don't matter then:thumb:

Everything that is in the ten commandments, has been restated and deamed important by christ.

 

You must look at the context of the Ten Commandments, they were written as the law, a way to possibly gain a place with the God of Israel. Now we have Christ, Salvation is not gained by following the law or deeds, it is gained through Jesua. The Ten Commandments are a good guide to live our lives, but not the law.

Everything that is in the ten commandments, has been restated and deamed important by christ.

 

You must look at the context of the Ten Commandments, they were written as the law, a way to possibly gain a place with the God of Israel. Now we have Christ, Salvation is not gained by following the law or deeds, it is gained through Jesua. The Ten Commandments are a good guide to live our lives, but not the law.

 

But by following Jesus, wouldn't you want to live by the law?

Abraham Lincoln himself said that the Mexican-American war was the most unjust war in the history of the world. It's only fitting that Mexicans are finally getting back the land that rightly belongs to them.

So you think we should hand Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona back to the Mexicans?

 

Haven't you ever read the old testament were the sins of the fathers would be atoned for by 1,000 generations. Face it. God is in complete control and does what he wishes.

Haven't you ever read the old testament where God told the Israelites to take Canaan for their own and throw out the people who live there?

So you think we should hand Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona back to the Mexicans?

 

Haven't you ever read the old testament where God told the Israelites to take Canaan for their own and throw out the people who live there?

 

We may as well, Mexicans will be the sole inhabitants there anyway in the next few years. Exactly. Maybe God has told Mexico to throw the Americans out and take their land back. You just made my point for me.

And while I'm on a roll, I've got one more thing to add. I happen to love Taco Bell, Pollo Bandidos, Siestas, Corronas, and getting hard labor for $3.00/hour ain't bad either.

If that's your argument then every country in this world we call Earth is doomed to eternity and unjust.

 

 

Precisely the point, just or unjust we took the land by might of arms. In the course of history it is the most important driving force.

 

The French took the Louisiana purchase unjustly, so they sold something that wasn't theirs. The English took land that didn't belong to them when they settled on the Eastern Seaboard and established the plantation system. The Saxons unjustly took the land from the Celts when they invaded Britain as did the Germanic tribes when they invaded central Europe and the Franks when they took Gaul.

 

Sorry, it's not ideal and it's not happy but it's the way history works.

Precisely the point, just or unjust we took the land by might of arms. In the course of history it is the most important driving force.

 

The French took the Louisiana purchase unjustly, so they sold something that wasn't theirs. The English took land that didn't belong to them when they settled on the Eastern Seaboard and established the plantation system. The Saxons unjustly took the land from the Celts when they invaded Britain as did the Germanic tribes when they invaded central Europe and the Franks when they took Gaul.

 

Sorry, it's not ideal and it's not happy but it's the way history works.

 

So you won't be mad when the Mexican's take their land back.

Should we all move back to Europe?

 

I was in Mexico and in a museum when I saw a teacher telling her students about 10 years of age about "Greater Mexico" otherwise known as CA, NV, NM, TX, AZ and some others. She was telling them how it was their land. The infiltration is currently on going. When I was out on the west coast, I barely spoke spanish and was treated like I did not fit in. The last Mexican-America war may have been senseless according to Lincoln but if things keep up in 15 years the next one might not be. I am not saying I want it to happen. But it sure seems like they are trying to build small territories right now. And they sure are coming in 10X faster than there leaving.

So you won't be mad when the Mexican's take their land back.

 

 

Never said it wouldn't irritate me, and frankly if it came to that I would hope the U.S. would be willing to fight for it. California is like a different country to me al ready anyway.