NIV is what I use....A quarrelsome wife is like a constant dripping on a rainy day; restraining her is like restraining the wind or grasping oil with the hand. NIV

 

KJV A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.

 

Proverbs 19, but you forgot "a foolish son is his father's ruin . . .":D

Hearsay...verse 13 of the 19th chapter KJ... A foolish son is the calamity of his father; and the contentions of a wife are a continual dropping. There is that wife dropping thing again.

 

I have four sons.

The one I carried was a New Testament only - not too big. I have a complete parallel Bible in my home office - and I don't carry it around much.

 

:thumb: :lol:

 

I'm going to get a parallel some time, but I haven't yet.

Its majestic prose and poetry; its commission at the request of the King, thus uniting Church and secular authorities; its nomer as the "Authorized Version" in Great Britain, from whence we are primarily derived; its replacement of the high church etymology in place of the degraded terms from the Reformation.

 

It "feels" like the Bible of the King of Kings.

 

That is what I really like about it...I really like the King James and read from it often. I really prefer my bibles to be in the King James format of verses, rather than the standard NIV paragraph format with the verse number inserted. That's why I like the NKJV and NASB, because they update the language while maintaining the verse format. However, I have seen version of those translations that are written in the NIV style...it's pretty much just a matter of preference to me.

Could someone explain to me what makes the KJV "The Bible"?

 

I think Hearsay answered that pretty well as far as how the King James got so popular. Of course, your question could also be asking why some people treat the KJV as the only reliable and accurate translation of the Bible on the planet...I guess you'd have to ask someone who thinks that to know for sure.

 

To some degree though, I think people have been raised that way. I think some people are mis-informed about other translations. Some people mistakenly believe that modern translations were achieved by using the King James Bible and paraphrasing from that, which is not the case. I can't speak for all modern translations, but many of them were translated from original manuscripts, just like the King James.

 

Not only that, if you read and compare them, you'd be hard pressed to find any major differences (other than update language) between say the KJV and the NKJV, or NASB which I'm most familiar with. You'll still get the same message, just easier to understand, IMO.

I think Hearsay answered that pretty well as far as how the King James got so popular. Of course, your question could also be asking why some people treat the KJV as the only reliable and accurate translation of the Bible on the planet...I guess you'd have to ask someone who thinks that to know for sure.

That was the gist of my question. I agree that the KJV is the most poetic of the translations. However, I don't read it for poetry.

That was the gist of my question. I agree that the KJV is the most poetic of the translations. However, I don't read it for poetry.

 

I thought that was your point...

 

I like the KJV, but it wouldn't be my first pick if I could only read one translation for the rest of my life. It's easier for me to read and comprehend modern, up to date language.

 

If you prefer the King James because you like it the best, that's great. I have no problem with that. I know people who think it's the only accurate translation there is and any modern translation is a heresy...don't bother trying to sell me on that argument.

Mine is a parallel Bible, but it only has two versions, the KJV and the New Living. I really like being able to compare the two, but I find myself using KJV for content and NLV for readability.

Hearsay...verse 13 of the 19th chapter KJ... A foolish son is the calamity of his father; and the contentions of a wife are a continual dropping. There is that wife dropping thing again.

 

I have four sons.

 

I've got 3; thus far they are neither foolish, nor have caused me calamity; My wife can be contentious, but I have learned that I can be happy or I can be right, but not both.

I think Hearsay answered that pretty well as far as how the King James got so popular. Of course, your question could also be asking why some people treat the KJV as the only reliable and accurate translation of the Bible on the planet...I guess you'd have to ask someone who thinks that to know for sure.

 

To some degree though, I think people have been raised that way. I think some people are mis-informed about other translations. Some people mistakenly believe that modern translations were achieved by using the King James Bible and paraphrasing from that, which is not the case. I can't speak for all modern translations, but many of them were translated from original manuscripts, just like the King James.

 

Not only that, if you read and compare them, you'd be hard pressed to find any major differences (other than update language) between say the KJV and the NKJV, or NASB which I'm most familiar with. You'll still get the same message, just easier to understand, IMO.

 

The King James was a re-translation of the Tyndale Bible, with a portion of it the re-working of the old Latin Vulgate.

 

Tyndale was a Reformist, so he, like Martin Luther, changed a lot of words to make a point - that the Bible was not the sole possession of the clergy. For instance, Tyndale inserted the word "elder" instead of the literal, traditional translation of "priest." Much more "common."

 

The KJV tried to re-insert the original translation and harmonize where it could be harmonized.

I carry a NIV, initially because that was what the majority of the people at my church used, it was easier to follow along when people were reading aloud. Over time I began to like it because I could understand something after reading it once, instead of frequently re-reading.

 

I do keep a KJV at hope and when I am studying, I sometimes cross reference it with the KJV.

The King James was a re-translation of the Tyndale Bible, with a portion of it the re-working of the old Latin Vulgate.

 

Tyndale was a Reformist, so he, like Martin Luther, changed a lot of words to make a point - that the Bible was not the sole possession of the clergy. For instance, Tyndale inserted the word "elder" instead of the literal, traditional translation of "priest." Much more "common."

 

The KJV tried to re-insert the original translation and harmonize where it could be harmonized.

 

I've done some research on a few of the translations. Combining that with the fact that I've read quite a bit from the KJV, NKJV and NASB, and to a lesser extent, the NIV, I think any of those four are good versions. It's just a matter of preference. I think the mindset that the KJV is the only one with God's approval is misguided and dangerous in some circumstances...my pastor told me of one such instance about a newly converted Christian. A younger girl (teenager I think) had just come to Christ and was using an NIV Bible. When she took it to church, someone (pastor maybe but I'm not sure) informed her that that was a big no-no. Apparently, it really confused and affected her in the wrong way....and all for what? Someone's ignorance, IMO.

 

Also, didn't want to imply that those four were the only ones that were good...just the ones I'm most familiar with.

I carry a NIV, initially because that was what the majority of the people at my church used, it was easier to follow along when people were reading aloud. Over time I began to like it because I could understand something after reading it once, instead of frequently re-reading.

 

I do keep a KJV at hope and when I am studying, I sometimes cross reference it with the KJV.

 

That's my biggest problem with the KJV. I spend a lot of time "decoding" as I heard one person state it. That's why I prefer the New King James Version. I've read enough now to where I'm pretty comfortable with the KJV and I enjoy reading it. I like to change from time to time...I've found it often helps me see things in a different way...not changing the meaning or anything, just a different way to apply the same message.

 

I'm actually currently using my KJV...I still have a soft spot for that majestic, poetic structure...:lol:

If you've ever heard of a "Scofield" bible, that's an ESV.

 

Actually, come to think of it, I guess I do have an ESV version...it's an English-to-Greek reverse Bible, or something like that...I use it from time to time when I'm doing a word study...or just for fun. I'm pretty sure it's ESV. I haven't read from it extensively, but I do like it from what I have.

That's my biggest problem with the KJV. I spend a lot of time "decoding" as I heard one person state it. That's why I prefer the New King James Version. I've read enough now to where I'm pretty comfortable with the KJV and I enjoy reading it. I like to change from time to time...I've found it often helps me see things in a different way...not changing the meaning or anything, just a different way to apply the same message.

 

I'm actually currently using my KJV...I still have a soft spot for that majestic, poetic structure...:lol:

 

I have also found, no matter what version of the Bible you are using, that a good Bible dictionary, Bible Concordance, and a Bible Commentary are good to have around when you are doing Bible study. I also have a book of Bible charts and maps, with geology charts and charts of chronology, which helps a lot.