Not until his contract is up.Shut up and collect his money and then go somewhere else.:cry:

So he waives all his rights when he signs the contract? He doesn't have the right to have a say in the pieces that are placed around him? He doesn't have a right to be happy in his situation?

So he waives all his rights when he signs the contract? He doesn't have the right to have a say in the pieces that are placed around him? He doesn't have a right to be happy in his situation?

Now you are getting it.He works for the Lakers not the other way around.If he owned the team then he would have a say. I hate it when the players try and manage the teams they play on no matter who it is or what sport.They get paid plenty to play and the owners and management should be running the show not the players.

So he waives all his rights when he signs the contract? He doesn't have the right to have a say in the pieces that are placed around him? He doesn't have a right to be happy in his situation?

 

Like Kobe, most people don't own the places they work. I can't walk in down at the factory and say, "I'm not working with this guy and those two women; put my friends in their place." The boss would rightfully say, "Tough luck."

 

Mind you, this is probably the most non-anticorporate I've ever been.

I guess you hate jordan than mildford.

I guess you hate jordan than mildford.

 

I can't speak for him, but I would submit that Jordan weilded far too much power and set a bad precedent for the future of the NBA.

But you are a jordan fan jim?

Like Kobe, most people don't own the places they work. I can't walk in down at the factory and say, "I'm not working with this guy and those two women; put my friends in their place." The boss would rightfully say, "Tough luck."

 

Mind you, this is probably the most non-anticorporate I've ever been.

 

But you would have the right to seek employment elsewhere, right?

Now you are getting it.He works for the Lakers not the other way around.If he owned the team then he would have a say. I hate it when the players try and manage the teams they play on no matter who it is or what sport.They get paid plenty to play and the owners and management should be running the show not the players.

 

 

But if you were the most valuable asset a company had and also paid the most of all your colleagues, had the most responsibility and always looked to for direction, wouldn't you want a say in how the company was run?

But you are a jordan fan jim?

 

No. He is the main reason I hate the NBA today, for a few reasons:

 

1) The league's decision to switch from marketing the team to marketing the individual. He is the architect of the "me-first" era of prima donnas.

2) The "Jordan Rules," where the stars get not just preferential treatment, but almost reverence and deference from officials.

3) The fact that today's players saw only the dunks, and didn't pick up on the fact that Jordan worked so much harder than everyone else around him. Examples are how he improved his outside shot, passing, ballhandling and defense. It's why you can see better fundamentals exhibited in a HS game than in the NBA.

4) Those awful-looking shoes, and the fact that poor kids kill each other over them for no other reason than the name on them. And the fact that what amounts to slave labor is used to make them, yet prices are still astronomical.

 

 

These are just a few of the reasons why I think that MJ, while clearly the greatest player ever, was in the long run bad for the game. It's why I and a lot of other traditionalists find today's NBA unwatchable.

It's amazing how quickly people jump on pro athletes just because of the amount of money they make. If Kobe was being honest about his meeting with Buss, he was left with nothing in LA. Then you have a Laker insider saying that Kobe is the problem (yea right).

But you would have the right to seek employment elsewhere, right?

 

Sure. I just hope that no other business owner would stoop so low as to place the needs of one over the needs of the many. (That's a paraphrase of a Dr. Spock quote, for you non-Trekkies out there.)

Sure. I just hope that no other business owner would stoop so low as to place the needs of one over the needs of the many. (That's a paraphrase of a Dr. Spock quote, for you non-Trekkies out there.)

 

Isn't winning what's best for many and the organization? Don't key employees play a part in determining the direction of an organization?

I am about as anti-Kobe as they get, but I feel he has earned the right to ask management to give him capable "co-workers", or if they are unwilling to do that, ask to be moved elsewhere.

Isn't winning what's best for many and the organization? Don't key employees play a part in determining the direction of an organization?

 

If they indeed want what's best for the organization. I'm not convinced that Kobe or any of the other prima donnas want anything more than self-glorification, however.

I have a couple things on this topic:

 

First, would Kobe offer to restructure his contract to free up money to sign other players if he had a say in who was signed?

 

Second, will he have a say in where he is traded? Can he veto?

 

In my opinion, if he can't/won't do the first thing, he shouldn't be allowed to do the second.