Can anyone tell me the rules concerning playing jv if you are a varsity starter. Is there a limit to the number of varsity starts you can have and still play jv. (assuming you are of jv age). Is there a limit to varsity minutes of play and still be able to play jv. Thanks ahead of time for setting me straight on this topic.

No limit in KY. A player can play(start Fresh, JV and V all in one night). OH has a rule that you can only play 6qt a night.

If a player is starting on the varsity level and getting enough minutes why would they be playing JV? Unless the start on the varsity level is isolated due to the injury of a teamate or special circumstance. Is winning a JV game that important?

In Kentucky there are no rules governing JV play in any sport, so basically each coach/school makes their own rules or simply does what they want, most don't take advantage too bad, only hurting themselves, by winning, but not playing younger players.

Though I have heard coaches in other sports talking about their JV record and play a lot of the same kids, but some schools have to in other sports because of numbers.

There is no substitute for game experience. Put it into perspective, I practice my kids for 2 1/2 hours daily. I spend a lot of time teaching and shooting free throws and that sort of thing. But the truth is, a player can go for 24 minutes of a jv game and 32 minutes of a varsity game and be fine. If not their coach has not properly prepared his kids to play.

If a player is getting 32 minutes in the varsity game (or even 20+) then they have no business playing in the JV game. The JV game is for the players that are not yet ready for varsity or can't get enough minutes at the varsity level. It is great that they are conditioned enough to do both but the JV game should be played by JV players.

There seems to be an unwritten rule among coaches if the player is starting varsity, they don't play JV unless circumstances doesn't allow that to occur.

There seems to be an unwritten rule among coaches if the player is starting varsity, they don't play JV unless circumstances doesn't allow that to occur.

 

 

I don't agree w/this. I have been watching girls bball in NKY for yrs and most coaches, at the smaller schools, play their best in every game if possible. I can remember watching Rachel Lantry play in an 8th grade game on Sat morning, then play a little in the freshman game, a little in the JV game and START in the V game that night. Katie Behrens did the same when she was at Ludlow in the 8th grade. Bowling(Boone) and Smith(NDA) did this when they were in the 7th grade at Beechwood, play at all levels.

 

IMO, it is too much, unless playing time is monitored. If they are good enough to start V, they should not be dressing for any other level. Someone mentioned they should be conditioned well enough to play a whole JV/V game, NOT! Their bodies are well conditioned but not enough to put their body through back to back games one right after another. Maybe w/a few hrs inbetween but not back to back. It is not healthy!!

Lbbc, As a coach as well, I agree with you. I would never start one of my varsity kids in a jv game. Injuries, skill, level, all of those factors matter. I would however, play a kid who gets significant (10-15) min a game on the varsity level in a jv game and have him work on specific aspects of his game. I would tell him before the game, "kid, become a better rebounder tonight, get better defensively, etc."

3ptshooter, Why is it that Michael Jordan, remember him (the greatest player to ever put on NIKE shoes) put himself through a complete aerobic weight lifting workout before every game and then played 48 minutes of a 60 minute NBA game against the best players in the world. The truth is, I put kids through much harder practices than any game ever is, as do most coaches whether they will admit it or not. Health has nothing to with it.

3ptshooter, Why is it that Michael Jordan, remember him (the greatest player to ever put on NIKE shoes) put himself through a complete aerobic weight lifting workout before every game and then played 48 minutes of a 60 minute NBA game against the best players in the world. The truth is, I put kids through much harder practices than any game ever is, as do most coaches whether they will admit it or not. Health has nothing to with it.

 

 

You are comparing apples w/oranges. Jordan is/was an elite athlete whose body was conditioned for that kind of treatment. Age and maturity come into play also.

 

It's like the general public wondering how a professional athlete can come back from an ACL surgery in 4 weeks, so why can't my high school athlete. Again, age, maturity and being a well conditioned machine.

 

It don't matter to me if a kid plays all those minutes as long as it isn't my kid doing it. I know and see the first hand outcome of overuse w/young athletes, some get over it and some don't, meaning some have surgery and some don't. Read some literature on young athletes and overuse injuries, you will be surprised.

If a player is starting on the varsity level and getting enough minutes why would they be playing JV? Unless the start on the varsity level is isolated due to the injury of a teamate or special circumstance. Is winning a JV game that important?

 

 

In this particular case it is not at all about winning a JV game. This is a question by a parent about what might or might not be good for a particular player and team. She is a freshman, starts all Varsity games and plays the entire game,(there are only 5 Varsity players!) but.....the program is really really struggling now and there will be only 3 returning varsity players next year. There are 2 or 3 JV players that get maybe a quarter of play each Varsity game. (otherwise it's the starting 5 for the whole game). The confidence level of this freshman is down and I am wondering if playing some JV would help with that. The attitude, hustle, and talent on the JV seems to me to be better than the Varsity. The JV coach had mentioned her playing some JV as had the varsity coach but hasn't acted on it yet. We thought it may be a playing time rule or something. Thanks for any additional input on this as we would only want what was best for the team and would never try to second guess the coach....just wanting to see some success in this program!

Lbbc, As a coach as well, I agree with you. I would never start one of my varsity kids in a jv game. Injuries, skill, level, all of those factors matter. I would however, play a kid who gets significant (10-15) min a game on the varsity level in a jv game and have him work on specific aspects of his game. I would tell him before the game, "kid, become a better rebounder tonight, get better defensively, etc."[/quote

 

 

Thank you ...that is what I am hoping to see.. A way to improve as a player.

 

But do you still think if she is playing the entire varsity game , you wouldn't play her in JV or as stated in my last post, do you think there are certain circumstances where it still makes sense.

 

Hey ....I really appreciate everyones opinion on this topic. This is a very difficult place to be in.

If the kids don't complain why worry, other than they might be exhausted.

to be honest with you all... this means more to the parents then it does to players.. The parents believe it to be a slap in the face when a younger or JV player plays more then a varsity player... We as coaches fight that never ending battle!