Never said they were the same. Simply stating that officials could be had for a Friday afternoon game if needed.

 

I would HIGHLY doubt it frankly. If it were that easy then schools wouldn’t have the issues getting the normal season night games covered.

 

The likelihood that people are willing to come officiate a showcase event for free on a Friday afternoon is slim to none. (I know they used to not get paid, or sure if that is still true)

You aren’t. Spoke with a couple others who said the same. This is about control

 

Yeah ... thats right ... because you actually spoke to the Athletic Direction, Noel Rash and the Soccer Coach. I know for a fact that you haven't spoken to at least 2 of those people ... so do yourself a favor ... give a call to AD Booth and Coach Rash .. and ask their opinion of the situation. I am 100% sure that they will be more than happy to fill you in on what is REALLY going on.

 

I do agree with one thing that you said ... this is about CONTROL. But the control isn't necessarily coming from the direction that you are alluding to. l

 

When it comes to the soccer argument ... Beechwood had natural grass. Many people complained because there was a perfectly good football field that they could use instead of using the grass field (which is really funny when you consider how many injuries occurred on the turf ... that were directly related to the age of said turf). People complained ... said it wasn't fair (pretty funny with that ... because the KHSAA never raised any Title 9 issues in regard to facilities for Soccer vs other sports).

 

So ... the powers that be decided that they would try to find a way to come up with funding to add turf to the top fields. They find the funding ... they get it done. The soccer programs now have THEIR OWN facilities. They have TURF ... they have LIGHTS ... they have room for plenty of fans (I am not going to talk about the part where there are rarely more than a handful of fans).

 

How many teams in NKY or even the state have THEIR OWN field ... that is steps away from school and an athletic facility that is 2nd to none one?

 

Can someone explain to me .. how the field up top isn't good enough for the soccer programs? I understand the previous situation when there was no turf. What in the heck does that have to do with football ... or Noel Rash in particular? The school went out and found the money to take care of the situation ... and that still isn't good enough. Seriously... the people in this thread sound like a bunch of spoiled malcontents who think it has to be their way or no way.

 

All the varsity girls and boys games are on the big field (EVERY ONE) ... you don't think football is adjusting their schedule for that?

 

All the other teams outside of soccer are making due with their space. Do yourself a favor and go up to Beechwood this week ... and see how many people are using the big field on the average day. If football was the end all be all ... how come there are usually a minimum of 150 kids on the big field practicing ... working on the sled, using the chutes, working on field goal/extra point ... which you walk up top ... and there is a TON of open space ... and there are no where near as many kids using the facilities up top.

 

So again ... please explain to me why a nearly brand new turf field ... with lights is not good enough for the soccer program.

 

(And when you do ... please keep in mind that this isn't just about Soccer or football ... and remember that the freaking track team practices on a track that has 90 degree corners on one end ... pretty funny how no one complains about that).

Yeah ... thats right ... because you actually spoke to the Athletic Direction, Noel Rash and the Soccer Coach. I know for a fact that you haven't spoken to at least 2 of those people ... so do yourself a favor ... give a call to AD Booth and Coach Rash .. and ask their opinion of the situation. I am 100% sure that they will be more than happy to fill you in on what is REALLY going on.

 

I do agree with one thing that you said ... this is about CONTROL. But the control isn't necessarily coming from the direction that you are alluding to. l

 

When it comes to the soccer argument ... Beechwood had natural grass. Many people complained because there was a perfectly good football field that they could use instead of using the grass field (which is really funny when you consider how many injuries occurred on the turf ... that were directly related to the age of said turf). People complained ... said it wasn't fair (pretty funny with that ... because the KHSAA never raised any Title 9 issues in regard to facilities for Soccer vs other sports).

 

So ... the powers that be decided that they would try to find a way to come up with funding to add turf to the top fields. They find the funding ... they get it done. The soccer programs now have THEIR OWN facilities. They have TURF ... they have LIGHTS ... they have room for plenty of fans (I am not going to talk about the part where there are rarely more than a handful of fans).

 

How many teams in NKY or even the state have THEIR OWN field ... that is steps away from school and an athletic facility that is 2nd to none one?

 

Can someone explain to me .. how the field up top isn't good enough for the soccer programs? I understand the previous situation when there was no turf. What in the heck does that have to do with football ... or Noel Rash in particular? The school went out and found the money to take care of the situation ... and that still isn't good enough. Seriously... the people in this thread sound like a bunch of spoiled malcontents who think it has to be their way or no way.

 

All the varsity girls and boys games are on the big field (EVERY ONE) ... you don't think football is adjusting their schedule for that?

 

All the other teams outside of soccer are making due with their space. Do yourself a favor and go up to Beechwood this week ... and see how many people are using the big field on the average day. If football was the end all be all ... how come there are usually a minimum of 150 kids on the big field practicing ... working on the sled, using the chutes, working on field goal/extra point ... which you walk up top ... and there is a TON of open space ... and there are no where near as many kids using the facilities up top.

 

So again ... please explain to me why a nearly brand new turf field ... with lights is not good enough for the soccer program.

 

(And when you do ... please keep in mind that this isn't just about Soccer or football ... and remember that the freaking track team practices on a track that has 90 degree corners on one end ... pretty funny how no one complains about that).

 

This has nothing to do with the track team. This is all about The field up top isn't big enough for Varsity soccer. Simple. It isn't about being spoiled, it is about hosting an event, and then not providing a field sufficiently sized for the athletes.

 

If he, or Rash, didn't want to change the practice schedule, then the event should never have been held there. Again, it is that simple. How can Bryson Warner permit Soccerama at Ryle w/out an issue a few years ago? How can other schools with football permit this event? Why is this year the year that they decided that it couldn't be done? I feel like Beechwood is a terrible place to host this event, but it is their turn. So, if you are going to hold the event, then you should host it correctly. What is spoiled about that? What is ungrateful about that?

Yeah ... thats right ... because you actually spoke to the Athletic Direction, Noel Rash and the Soccer Coach. I know for a fact that you haven't spoken to at least 2 of those people ... so do yourself a favor ... give a call to AD Booth and Coach Rash .. and ask their opinion of the situation. I am 100% sure that they will be more than happy to fill you in on what is REALLY going on.

 

I do agree with one thing that you said ... this is about CONTROL. But the control isn't necessarily coming from the direction that you are alluding to. l

 

When it comes to the soccer argument ... Beechwood had natural grass. Many people complained because there was a perfectly good football field that they could use instead of using the grass field (which is really funny when you consider how many injuries occurred on the turf ... that were directly related to the age of said turf). People complained ... said it wasn't fair (pretty funny with that ... because the KHSAA never raised any Title 9 issues in regard to facilities for Soccer vs other sports).

 

So ... the powers that be decided that they would try to find a way to come up with funding to add turf to the top fields. They find the funding ... they get it done. The soccer programs now have THEIR OWN facilities. They have TURF ... they have LIGHTS ... they have room for plenty of fans (I am not going to talk about the part where there are rarely more than a handful of fans).

 

How many teams in NKY or even the state have THEIR OWN field ... that is steps away from school and an athletic facility that is 2nd to none one?

 

Can someone explain to me .. how the field up top isn't good enough for the soccer programs? I understand the previous situation when there was no turf. What in the heck does that have to do with football ... or Noel Rash in particular? The school went out and found the money to take care of the situation ... and that still isn't good enough. Seriously... the people in this thread sound like a bunch of spoiled malcontents who think it has to be their way or no way.

 

All the varsity girls and boys games are on the big field (EVERY ONE) ... you don't think football is adjusting their schedule for that?

 

All the other teams outside of soccer are making due with their space. Do yourself a favor and go up to Beechwood this week ... and see how many people are using the big field on the average day. If football was the end all be all ... how come there are usually a minimum of 150 kids on the big field practicing ... working on the sled, using the chutes, working on field goal/extra point ... which you walk up top ... and there is a TON of open space ... and there are no where near as many kids using the facilities up top.

 

So again ... please explain to me why a nearly brand new turf field ... with lights is not good enough for the soccer program.

 

(And when you do ... please keep in mind that this isn't just about Soccer or football ... and remember that the freaking track team practices on a track that has 90 degree corners on one end ... pretty funny how no one complains about that).

 

How does playing in the outfield of a baseball/softball field, where they have to rechalk the lines and shrink the field, make it so they have “THEIR OWN facilities”(your words not mine)?

 

The field was turf before they had soccer and for a long time. That’s all on football or whoever wanted it changed. Don’t go blaming soccer at all for the loss of the grass field.

 

The fact that when it was redone they now put soccer lines on it only makes sense at the time they had just added a girls and boys program. As well as they are now taking in money when the USSF teams come and rent it. So go shed your tears somewhere else.

 

You can call it whatever you want but in the modern world we may not have gotten an official title 9 complaint yet but beechwood could see the writing on the wall. Soccer was coming whether they wanted it or not. I think it’s plain to see the answer to their preference though.

This has nothing to do with the track team. This is all about The field up top isn't big enough for Varsity soccer. Simple. It isn't about being spoiled, it is about hosting an event, and then not providing a field sufficiently sized for the athletes.

 

If he, or Rash, didn't want to change the practice schedule, then the event should never have been held there. Again, it is that simple. How can Bryson Warner permit Soccerama at Ryle w/out an issue a few years ago? How can other schools with football permit this event? Why is this year the year that they decided that it couldn't be done? I feel like Beechwood is a terrible place to host this event, but it is their turn. So, if you are going to hold the event, then you should host it correctly. What is spoiled about that? What is ungrateful about that?

 

Did it ever occur to you that someone may have agreed to play it at

Beechwood without clearing it with the administration? And at the same time ... if Beechwood has its own field up top ... which it does ... why would anything need to be cleared with Noel Rash? What in the heck does Noel Rash have to do with any of it when the Soccer program has their OWN field. Did it occur to you that the administration didn't think that it is fair to the other programs that use the facilities should have to change around a schedule that has been set for months ? And yes ... I am 100% confident that there was minimal to ZERO communication to the decision makers when it came to this event.

 

Bryson Warner at Ryle? Guess what ... he didn't have a choice ... I could be wrong ... but Ryle Soccer doesn't have their own field ... correct? Don't all the programs at Ryle share the only field they have? Which means .... you guessed it .... it isn't an apples to apples comparison. How can other schools do it? Well ... how many of these "other schools" don't have any other options besides the same field that all the programs use? Which again ... not an apples to apples comparison. Beechwood Soccer has their own field/facilities. It isn't Beechwood's problem is you think they don't have enough room (which obviously isn't the truth ... or they wouldn't be allowed to play games there to begin with ... so I really need you to educate me on why the field isn't "sufficently sized for the athletes").

 

From there ... are you saying that the field at Beechwood isn't a regulation sized field? Because I will tell you this ... there is twice the room up there compared to the football field.

 

How in the world is that area "not big enough" ... seriously ... all ears and ready to listen. When I walked up there 3 hours ago ... you could fit two football fields up there. Is it seating? Is it something else?

 

I have been at Beechwood just about every day for the past 20 years ... and I would have never guessed that the field up top isn't big enough for soccer ... or basically anything else.

 

I really need someone to help explain to me how the Beechwood Ad or Coach Rash should have to change around the facility schedule when the soccer program has their own facilities to begin with. And yes ... I am also saying that the football program isn't responsible for poor communication between the Soccer program and the administration. The football schedule has been completed and turned in ... with all the other facilities schedules MONTHS AGO.

 

The more I read your message ... the more I think that you are going off of information from one person ... or one particular group of people as opposed to actually speaking to all the groups involved (I get it ... not really realistic for you to be able to do that) ... but at the same time ... for you to point towards Beechwood and Coach Rash .. with your previous "control" issue comment ... isn't fair to either.

How does playing in the outfield of a baseball/softball field, where they have to rechalk the lines and shrink the field, make it so they have “THEIR OWN facilities”(your words not mine)?

 

The field was turf before they had soccer and for a long time. That’s all on football or whoever wanted it changed. Don’t go blaming soccer at all for the loss of the grass field.

 

The fact that when it was redone they now put soccer lines on it only makes sense at the time they had just added a girls and boys program. As well as they are now taking in money when the USSF teams come and rent it. So go shed your tears somewhere else.

 

You can call it whatever you want but in the modern world we may not have gotten an official title 9 complaint yet but beechwood could see the writing on the wall. Soccer was coming whether they wanted it or not. I think it’s plain to see the answer to their preference though.

 

Yep ... I should have known better than wasting my time responding to the Soccer Mommies and Daddies ... because their opinion in the only one that matters.

 

And I am 100% sure ... that the Soccer fields up top are Title 9 compliant (which, by the way, isn't just about the girls).

 

Those soccer lines on the football field ... are there because the Soccer teams (BOTH OF THEM) play more games on that field than the Football team does. So take your poor pitiful me act somewhere else .... but then again ... why let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

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