April 4, 20188 yr The incident happened in Asheville, NC back in August. The officer took exception to the victim not using the crosswalk and the verbally sparred as to whether the officer was harassing him. The officer eventually told him he was getting a ticket or going to jail. When he started to run the officer punched him multiple times, including in the face with a stun gun and put him in a chokehold. The officer was suspended the next day and resigned in January on the day before he was to be fired. Last month he was charged with felony assault, misdemeanor assault and threatening for the incident. In addition, charges against the victim in this case as well as 27 other cases involving the officer were dropped because he was not seen as a credible witness. His supervisor that from that night was also disciplined. The videos were just released by the city. This Video Shows An Asheville Police Officer Beating A Black Man For Jaywalking
April 4, 20188 yr He beat him because he got his feelings hurt. That’s a human nature thing but it’s one that officers have to be able to overlook.
April 4, 20188 yr Weeded out a bad one. Good. Guys like this usually don’t last long before they’re exposed. Good riddance.
April 4, 20188 yr Author Weeded out a bad one. Good. Guys like this usually don’t last long before they’re exposed. Good riddance. I was glad to see the trainee was not held responsible for the poor example he was given during his training. Also it was refreshing to see the transparency that the city handled this with.
April 4, 20188 yr In the video it looked like the cop knew that he had done wrong, but didn't want to truly face it or admit it, and continued to try to spin things as if he was justified in his actions, and that the guy had it coming. It was a very upsetting thing to see, and I must admit it had me wanting to jump through my screen and go ballistic on the cop. As ordinarily a non-violent person it's unsettling to feel as though acts of violence can make me have the sense that I would want to retaliate also in a violent way. Obviously two wrongs don't make a right, and self-control to deescalate situations is the more sensible approach, but damn if that didn't grind my gears. :no:
April 4, 20188 yr The cop got out of control. He needed to have more patience with the deaf man who laughed at him and took off running over a ticket after he had been told not to jaywalk several times. Not sure what he should have or could have done, but he can't lose his temper like that. No tolerance for that in today's world. We had a thread about Ky. teachers taking a cut in their benefits, and the police and fireman are facing the same cuts. Not going to be many left that will want to take these jobs.
April 4, 20188 yr Jaywalking, though against the law, and as we all know is more than not overlooked, and more than not when addressed is done so selectively for whatever reasons. Depending on the location it definitely can pose as a dangerous threat to pedestrians and motorists alike. I know that I have, and suppose that many of you have as well been in a situation where you know that you can make it safely without disrupting traffic, and without having to go all the way to the cross walk to accomplish getting across. I've been at a crosswalk before where I see the motorist stopped at the light who is distracted. or might be texting, and I'll feel more in control of my own destiny if I walk behind his/her car to cross rather than in front. Technically this is jaywalking, but I'm not chancing whether or not they're being responsible enough to stay alert to see me. Of course I wouldn't dare do this if there is more oncoming traffic, but only if they are the only motorist at the traffic light. Personally though, even if I am jaywalking I am conscious that it is an offense, and I'll look around to see if a cop is near by. If I see one I have definitely rethought it, or waited until they were out of my view. I've actually jaywalked before and then realized that I had been seen doing so by a cop, but never have I ever been approached about it. Growing up in Covington, I see families crossing in dangerous places all the time so much that I literally believe that some kids are never even raised to even know that there is a law against it, and simply develop the habit to walk wherever, and whenever they want to. Judging by the character of this police officer it was done so selectively for possibly one of many reasons, but only one in particular, and with limited information, that I can come up with, or imagine. Why he selectively stopped him to begin with is anybody's guess, and to continue to tell him might suggest that he was becoming increasingly perturbed that the guy continued to disregard his instruction. Sure, I don't know anything for sure, but If I had to guess my hunch would say that the guy had been selectively profiled, and then harassed accordingly. If it had been I who had jaywalked in the exact location, considering my past history with never having been approached, my best guess would be that this police officer would not have approached me. Adding all of the factors as to why he probably and/or possibly felt the need to approach him to begin with I'd say that he considered the guy to be disrespectful to him by ignoring his demands, and his ego wasn't going to allow this guy to go against his authority, and so his ego mixed with his obvious aversion to the guy, and him thinking that his authority is almighty, he began to justify to himself everything that would allow him to blow off some steam on this given night, and give someone a good old butt whooping just before he went home to slap his wife around. I'm not a cop-hater, and I totally get it when sometimes they have to use force, but plain and simple this cop is a racist jerk, and just because he is, is no reason to go after, and continue to harass someone simply because he doesn't like his looks. Being able to detect when someone is up to no good is one thing, but making mountains out of mole hills because you're a racist pig is completely unacceptable. It could be said that the guy was disrespectful, but was it really necessary that he was in that position to begin with? Sure it's easy to say to keep calm and follow orders, but it's not so easy when the one giving those orders is a complete jerk, and is obviously trying to start trouble. You could see in the video that at every step of the way the police officer continued to egg the guy on in an overkill way when he should have been deescalating the situation. The continued egging on was obviously done because this cop had already established in his own mind that he wanted to kick his butt, and would continue messing with him with the hopes he could in his own mind justify to begin to start to wail on him. The good news here is that the powers that be realized this, and this cop is done. There are good people and good cops, and there are bad people and bad cops. Sometimes good people are stopped by good cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes good people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by good cops. Taking all of this into consideration I can't simply knee-jerkingly defend all cops, or all citizens because it all depends on the situation. Thankfully I've never in my life been arrested, and I've had occasional situations when being pulled over where the police officer acted like a complete gentleman, but I've also been in a few situations where the police officer was an insufferable jerk who was full of himself and made me so furious inside that it took everything within my being to stay calm and not give him a piece of my mind. Sure that self-control kept me from more trouble, but I can't say for sure that I can always be that cool, and some cops know that some can't and pick pick pick away knowing full good and well that people under those nervous type situations can easily crack. This jerk did just that.
April 4, 20188 yr Jaywalking, though against the law, and as we all know is more than not overlooked, and more than not when addressed is done so selectively for whatever reasons. Depending on the location it definitely can pose as a dangerous threat to pedestrians and motorists alike. I know that I have, and suppose that many of you have as well been in a situation where you know that you can make it safely without disrupting traffic, and without having to go all the way to the cross walk to accomplish getting across. I've been at a crosswalk before where I see the motorist stopped at the light who is distracted. or might be texting, and I'll feel more in control of my own destiny if I walk behind his/her car to cross rather than in front. Technically this is jaywalking, but I'm not chancing whether or not they're being responsible enough to stay alert to see me. Of course I wouldn't dare do this if there is more oncoming traffic, but only if they are the only motorist at the traffic light. Personally though, even if I am jaywalking I am conscious that it is an offense, and I'll look around to see if a cop is near by. If I see one I have definitely rethought it, or waited until they were out of my view. I've actually jaywalked before and then realized that I had been seen doing so by a cop, but never have I ever been approached about it. Growing up in Covington, I see families crossing in dangerous places all the time so much that I literally believe that some kids are never even raised to even know that there is a law against it, and simply develop the habit to walk wherever, and whenever they want to. Judging by the character of this police officer it was done so selectively for possibly one of many reasons, but only one in particular, and with limited information, that I can come up with, or imagine. Why he selectively stopped him to begin with is anybody's guess, and to continue to tell him might suggest that he was becoming increasingly perturbed that the guy continued to disregard his instruction. Sure, I don't know anything for sure, but If I had to guess my hunch would say that the guy had been selectively profiled, and then harassed accordingly. If it had been I who had jaywalked in the exact location, considering my past history with never having been approached, my best guess would be that this police officer would not have approached me. Adding all of the factors as to why he probably and/or possibly felt the need to approach him to begin with I'd say that he considered the guy to be disrespectful to him by ignoring his demands, and his ego wasn't going to allow this guy to go against his authority, and so his ego mixed with his obvious aversion to the guy, and him thinking that his authority is almighty, he began to justify to himself everything that would allow him to blow off some steam on this given night, and give someone a good old butt whooping just before he went home to slap his wife around. I'm not a cop-hater, and I totally get it when sometimes they have to use force, but plain and simple this cop is a racist jerk, and just because he is, is no reason to go after, and continue to harass someone simply because he doesn't like his looks. Being able to detect when someone is up to no good is one thing, but making mountains out of mole hills because you're a racist pig is completely unacceptable. It could be said that the guy was disrespectful, but was it really necessary that he was in that position to begin with? Sure it's easy to say to keep calm and follow orders, but it's not so easy when the one giving those orders is a complete jerk, and is obviously trying to start trouble. You could see in the video that at every step of the way the police officer continued to egg the guy on in an overkill way when he should have been deescalating the situation. The continued egging on was obviously done because this cop had already established in his own mind that he wanted to kick his butt, and would continue messing with him with the hopes he could in his own mind justify to begin to start to wail on him. The good news here is that the powers that be realized this, and this cop is done. There are good people and good cops, and there are bad people and bad cops. Sometimes good people are stopped by good cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes good people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by good cops. Taking all of this into consideration I can't simply knee-jerkingly defend all cops, or all citizens because it all depends on the situation. Thankfully I've never in my life been arrested, and I've had occasional situations when being pulled over where the police officer acted like a complete gentleman, but I've also been in a few situations where the police officer was an insufferable jerk who was full of himself and made me so furious inside that it took everything within my being to stay calm and not give him a piece of my mind. Sure that self-control kept me from more trouble, but I can't say for sure that I can always be that cool, and some cops know that some can't and pick pick pick away knowing full good and well that people under those nervous type situations can easily crack. This jerk did just that. Nice. I’ll go out on a short limb that this isn’t the first time you’ve referred to a cop as a pig. This is no better than a racist slipping up and dropping a slur when they’re angry.
April 5, 20188 yr Nice. I’ll go out on a short limb that this isn’t the first time you’ve referred to a cop as a pig. This is no better than a racist slipping up and dropping a slur when they’re angry. Dont forget they are wife beaters as well.
April 5, 20188 yr Jaywalking, though against the law, and as we all know is more than not overlooked, and more than not when addressed is done so selectively for whatever reasons. Depending on the location it definitely can pose as a dangerous threat to pedestrians and motorists alike. I know that I have, and suppose that many of you have as well been in a situation where you know that you can make it safely without disrupting traffic, and without having to go all the way to the cross walk to accomplish getting across. I've been at a crosswalk before where I see the motorist stopped at the light who is distracted. or might be texting, and I'll feel more in control of my own destiny if I walk behind his/her car to cross rather than in front. Technically this is jaywalking, but I'm not chancing whether or not they're being responsible enough to stay alert to see me. Of course I wouldn't dare do this if there is more oncoming traffic, but only if they are the only motorist at the traffic light. Personally though, even if I am jaywalking I am conscious that it is an offense, and I'll look around to see if a cop is near by. If I see one I have definitely rethought it, or waited until they were out of my view. I've actually jaywalked before and then realized that I had been seen doing so by a cop, but never have I ever been approached about it. Growing up in Covington, I see families crossing in dangerous places all the time so much that I literally believe that some kids are never even raised to even know that there is a law against it, and simply develop the habit to walk wherever, and whenever they want to. Judging by the character of this police officer it was done so selectively for possibly one of many reasons, but only one in particular, and with limited information, that I can come up with, or imagine. Why he selectively stopped him to begin with is anybody's guess, and to continue to tell him might suggest that he was becoming increasingly perturbed that the guy continued to disregard his instruction. Sure, I don't know anything for sure, but If I had to guess my hunch would say that the guy had been selectively profiled, and then harassed accordingly. If it had been I who had jaywalked in the exact location, considering my past history with never having been approached, my best guess would be that this police officer would not have approached me. Adding all of the factors as to why he probably and/or possibly felt the need to approach him to begin with I'd say that he considered the guy to be disrespectful to him by ignoring his demands, and his ego wasn't going to allow this guy to go against his authority, and so his ego mixed with his obvious aversion to the guy, and him thinking that his authority is almighty, he began to justify to himself everything that would allow him to blow off some steam on this given night, and give someone a good old butt whooping just before he went home to slap his wife around. I'm not a cop-hater, and I totally get it when sometimes they have to use force, but plain and simple this cop is a racist jerk, and just because he is, is no reason to go after, and continue to harass someone simply because he doesn't like his looks. Being able to detect when someone is up to no good is one thing, but making mountains out of mole hills because you're a racist pig is completely unacceptable. It could be said that the guy was disrespectful, but was it really necessary that he was in that position to begin with? Sure it's easy to say to keep calm and follow orders, but it's not so easy when the one giving those orders is a complete jerk, and is obviously trying to start trouble. You could see in the video that at every step of the way the police officer continued to egg the guy on in an overkill way when he should have been deescalating the situation. The continued egging on was obviously done because this cop had already established in his own mind that he wanted to kick his butt, and would continue messing with him with the hopes he could in his own mind justify to begin to start to wail on him. The good news here is that the powers that be realized this, and this cop is done. There are good people and good cops, and there are bad people and bad cops. Sometimes good people are stopped by good cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes good people are stopped by bad cops, and sometimes bad people are stopped by good cops. Taking all of this into consideration I can't simply knee-jerkingly defend all cops, or all citizens because it all depends on the situation. Thankfully I've never in my life been arrested, and I've had occasional situations when being pulled over where the police officer acted like a complete gentleman, but I've also been in a few situations where the police officer was an insufferable jerk who was full of himself and made me so furious inside that it took everything within my being to stay calm and not give him a piece of my mind. Sure that self-control kept me from more trouble, but I can't say for sure that I can always be that cool, and some cops know that some can't and pick pick pick away knowing full good and well that people under those nervous type situations can easily crack. This jerk did just that. The cop had told him not to jay walk 3-4 times that night. Yet he did it again??
April 5, 20188 yr Author The cop had told him not to jay walk 3-4 times that night. Yet he did it again?? So do you think that excuses how he handled the situation?
April 5, 20188 yr So do you think that excuses how he handled the situation? I’ll answer that in post 7
April 5, 20188 yr The cop had told him not to jay walk 3-4 times that night. Yet he did it again?? I thought that too until someone posted that the guy was deaf, so that could be why he ignored the cop.
April 5, 20188 yr Author I’ll answer that in post 7 So you're blaming today's society on the cop's actions getting him in trouble. Tells me a lot.
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