The DNC supports Canadian Troops

[letabrotherspeak]

This is funny.

The DNC site had a picture of what they thought was an American Soldier, and evidently photoshopped the Canadian insignia off of it.

The pic has since been pulled.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008234.php

[Diamond Dandy]

This is funny.

The DNC site had a picture of what they thought was an American Soldier, and evidently photoshopped the Canadian insignia off of it.

The pic has since been pulled.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008234.php

 

You missed the real story on that page. 42% of vetrans returning from Iraq and Afganistan did not recieve the protective gear, vehicles ect they were promised by the Bush Admin.

[letabrotherspeak]

Why were they supporting Canadian troops with a Canadian picture...rather than a US soldiers picture?

[Frances Bavier]

Why were they supporting Canadian troops with a Canadian picture...rather than a US soldiers picture?

 

I can't answer that question, but I'll ask you one in return -

 

Why would you rush troops into a war of choice, without sufficient protective body armor, or enough armored vehicles?

 

Sadly, I don't find anything funny about my question for you.

 

Frances

[letabrotherspeak]

Good question, I guess we can ask the majority of Democrats that voted for it as well.

[75center]

That is pretty funny. Wonder why they did that. Doesn't make sense.

[Frances Bavier]

Good question, I guess we can ask the majority of Democrats that voted for it as well.

 

21 Democrats, 1 Independent, and 1 Republican voted against the resolution to authorize the use of military force in Iraq.

 

27 Democrats voted for the resolution, along with 50 Republicans. Fifty. A simple majority was needed to pass.

 

A fine attempt to lay it at the feet of the Democrats, but I'd say you might want to put it back on the "spin cycle" again.

 

Unless someone can't read or count, it's obvious who wanted this war, who manipulated the intelligence, who "sold" this war to both Congress and the American public, and who is now being held accountable for those actions.

 

I guess if we are going to lay this war at the feet of the Democrats, we should also give them credit for the record high close of the stock markets as well? Right?

 

 

Frances

[letabrotherspeak]

Now we are back to Bush lied...just as he stole the election in 2000.

The electorate had a chance to vote Bush out in 2004, but he won.

 

I was just making light of an obvious faux pas by the DNC on their website.

 

I am practically on the verge of voting Democrat in the state politics with the General Assembly, but will stick with the GOP nationally.

I could be possibly swayed with an alterior plan but I hear nothing but anti-Bush and definitely dont like what I am hearing in regards to what Dems want to do with the economy, rolling back the Bush tax cuts, rolling back the child tax credit, rolling back the marriage penalty relief.

It is more taxes...

Usually the Dems could roll out the economy which is doing fairly well, and that is not something they can really run on at the moment. Unemployment is down the deficit has been slashed beyond predictions and is only 2% of the GDP which is below the 2.7% over the last 40 years.

Give me something other than anti-Bush rhetoric.

[Frances Bavier]

Heck - just to be sure that I wasn't missing something, I looked up the voting record on HJ Resolution 114 for the House of Representatives.

 

Turns out that 80 Democrats voted for it in the House, while 126 voted against it. Combine that with the Senate votes, and it tallies up to 107 Democratic votes for the resolution, and 187 against it. I'd say that your assertion that the majority of Democrats voted for it was wrong. Unless my math is off, that is 63.6% of the Democrats voting against it.

 

For the Republicans, 215 votes for it in the House, combined with 50 in the Senate. Total of 265 for, and 7 against. Getting out the old calculator, that works out to a grand total of 97.4% of the Republicans voting for the resolution.

 

Grampa - tell me the one again, about how the Democrats got us into the war in Iraq...

 

 

Frances

[Frances Bavier]

Now we are back to Bush lied...just as he stole the election in 2000.

The electorate had a chance to vote Bush out in 2004, but he won. [/Quote] I know Bush lies - he's a politician. Just as Democrats lie. No real news there, other than sitting here four years later, and listening to someone try to act like W is lily white in this fiasco.

 

I was just making light of an obvious faux pas by the DNC on their website.[/Quote] I understand the point of your original post. It was obviously a stupid gaffe, by whomever chose to use that photo. Obviously, there are plenty of photos of American soldiers that could have been used. I think it's pretty obvious that it was a mistake. I also think that it is totally meaningless in the big picture of our current world situation.

 

 

I am practically on the verge of voting Democrat in the state politics with the General Assembly, but will stick with the GOP nationally.[/Quote] As you will. That is what makes this country great. We can vote for whomever we choose, and as a result, we get the government we deserve.

 

 

I could be possibly swayed with an alterior plan but I hear nothing but anti-Bush[/Quote] Hard for me to come up with anything even remotely pro-Bush. I tend to frown on sending our armed forces into war, with no exit strategy, no real reason to be there, and nothing more than political rhetoric to try to justify one catastrophic decision after another - while questioning the very patriotism of anyone that disagrees with those precepts.

 

 

... and definitely dont like what I am hearing in regards to what Dems want to do with the economy, rolling back the Bush tax cuts, rolling back the child tax credit, rolling back the marriage penalty relief. It is more taxes... [/Quote] I'm not sure you realize this, but the difference in the parties is no longer that one is for big government while the other espouses fiscal restraint. The Republican party spends like drunken sailors on a two day shore leave - but they use the income of our children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren to do so. Seems that those demographics don't get to vote, so it's easier to spend their money while pandering to the industrial military complex.

 

 

Usually the Dems could roll out the economy which is doing fairly well, and that is not something they can really run on at the moment. Unemployment is down the deficit has been slashed beyond predictions and is only 2% of the GDP which is below the 2.7% over the last 40 years. [/Quote] The truth is that the economy is NEVER the result of the actions of a sitting President. Rather, it's health is impacted by an incredible array of factors, many of which occurred in the past. Make no mistake - I hope that when Bush leaves office the Dow is over 20,000, but whatever it is (good OR bad), it won't be a result of his actions during his time in office.

 

 

Give me something other than anti-Bush rhetoric.

Okay. Want to talk about Foley? No? How about Hastert? No? You must be referring to the Abramoff scandal? No? Oh, now I know - you want to talk about the environmental situation? No?

 

Dang it. I'm having trouble coming up with something here. Give me a day or two.

 

 

Frances

[shooter]

You missed the real story on that page. 42% of vetrans returning from Iraq and Afganistan did not recieve the protective gear, vehicles ect they were promised by the Bush Admin.

 

The Bush Administration would have been happy to give the troups everything they wanted if the administration had it to give them. Unfortunately, when Bush took office the military didn't have enough equipment to fight what is by historical standards a small war. (Right now we have about 140,000 troups in Iraq, we had over 600,000 troups in Vietnam at the peak of fighting, and we had millions involved in WWII.) The Bush Administration ramped up as fast as they could but it takes a while to rebuild a military that had been in the process of being dismantled for years.

[Frances Bavier]

The Bush Administration would have been happy to give the troups everything they wanted if the administration had it to give them...

 

WOW!!

 

Watching Rumsfeld completely reject the Powell Doctrine (use of overwhelming force) while planning the invasion and overthrow of Iran, sure didn't seem like he was "giving them everything they wanted".

 

Watching him hammer the Chairman of the JCOS everyday for eight months, DEMANDING that the war should and could be fought with an absolute skeleton force (now known mockingly as the "Rumsfeld Doctrine") sure looked like a man intent on minimizing the appearance of risk to the people of our armed forces, while selling a pathetic plan to the public.

 

My head is spinning. I need to watch the O'Reilly factor, where I'm sure they'll soon be labeling Hastert as a Democrat, while throwing him to the wolves as well.

 

 

Frances

[titletownclown]

This is funny.

The DNC site had a picture of what they thought was an American Soldier, and evidently photoshopped the Canadian insignia off of it.

The pic has since been pulled.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008234.php

 

Very funny and very unsurprising.

[letabrotherspeak]

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Okay. Want to talk about Foley? No? How about Hastert? No? You must be referring to the Abramoff scandal? No? Oh, now I know - you want to talk about the environmental situation? No?

 

Dang it. I'm having trouble coming up with something here. Give me a day or two.

 

 

Frances

Foley is done...gone. He had IM or email overtures, he didn't actually use his power to coerce an actual act did he like someone we know.

But don't parade Nancy Pelosi up there and have her lecture me on needing to clean the swamp, when she voted 3x for Gerry Studds to chair a congressional committee, and voted against censure for Barney Frank, and the offered no objection ot the pardon of Mel Reynolds.

Hastert has done what wrong? Ah the cover-up...raspberry's

For every global warming issue, I can find document for a rebuttal.

[titletownclown]

Give me something other than anti-Bush rhetoric.

 

I've been asking the same thing for a LONG time LABS. Don't look for any change soon. If you look through the various P&R threads, you basically get the same anti-bush DNC talking points in EVERY thread...........Bush lied about this, Bush ignored that, Bush is stupid, Bush hates puppies, blah blah blah. It's like reading a 1000 page novel written by a five year old at times. And now it has gone beyond just Bush being stupid. In one thread, the "base" of people that watch Fox News were referred to as "ignorant". Oh the irony in that statement. I used to get a bit irritated at such posts, but now I actually find humor in them.