Referees do peer review but coaches no longer do reviews because they could only be bothered when they lost. Grant county tournament had 7 varsity games alone. The association covers 6 counties. Saturday's are bad on numbers because most refs block Saturdays because they might have there on kids playing or they choose to do club or just have a couple days off to recover.

I was told the goal at Henry Clay was an own goal.

Can CCH supporters every take a lose without having an excuse for it??? Games are never officiated 100% correctly every time, but it doesn't mean that every game CCH fans need to find an excuse as to why they shouldn't have lost. Seen the excuses in the past two threads regarding both of their losses to HHS and Ryle.

Can CCH supporters every take a lose without having an excuse for it??? Games are never officiated 100% correctly every time, but it doesn't mean that every game CCH fans need to find an excuse as to why they shouldn't have lost. Seen the excuses in the past two threads regarding both of their losses to HHS and Ryle.

 

What excuses? Did someone say they lost either game due to officiating?

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What excuses? Did someone say they lost either game due to officiating?

I'll agree with you here. I didn't see much griping about the loss to highlands.

Can CCH supporters every take a lose without having an excuse for it??? Games are never officiated 100% correctly every time, but it doesn't mean that every game CCH fans need to find an excuse as to why they shouldn't have lost. Seen the excuses in the past two threads regarding both of their losses to HHS and Ryle.

 

Dude you need to go back through both threads and re-read. Re-read my post listed below.

CCH/Ryle thread post #12 and #15.

#12 talks about a "gift" CCH gave Ryle had NOTHING to do with the referees. PK was "Christmas comes early" yes HORRIBLE CALL, did you see it? Facts a fact brother. But no where in post #12 do I blame the refereeing nor indicate CCH lost due to referees.

Post #15 is about refereeing in general, has NOTHING to do with the Ryle/CCH game.

 

CCH/HHS thread post #21, 24, 31.

VERY FIRST line in post #21 says it all,

FAIR RESULT.

I need to say no more, those two words, FAIR RESULT pretty much says it all, no need to carry on.

If you paid closer attention to the thread, you would have seen the excuse of CCH not playing their best 11 against Highlands, nor did their best player play in the game. Those are both excuses to the CCH lose. Who is this "best player" that did not play?? Stava, Vogt, and Lamb are arguably their best players by a mile.

If you paid closer attention to the thread, you would have seen the excuse of CCH not playing their best 11 against Highlands, nor did their best player play in the game. Those are both excuses to the CCH lose. Who is this "best player" that did not play?? Stava, Vogt, and Lamb are arguably their best players by a mile.

 

The CCH/Highlands post are listed below. NO mention of ANY excuse and NO mention of a CCH BEST player NOT playing in the game. Post #24 is simply pointing out facts to correct Post #23.

 

CCH/Highlands post #23:

They played, what I'm guessing is their best XI for the first 20 minutes of the second half and that time frame ended 1-1 and Highlands had come out on the bad end of goal box scramble that CovCath was able to clear that had a better than decent chance to make it 2-1 at that point. Highlands plays with a ton of energy. CovCath, in my uneducated mind played with a lot of uncertainty. They weren't very decisive near the final 1/3rd. One thing is for sure, the Region is WIDE open this year.

 

CCH/Highlands post #24:

You guessed wrong, CCH did not play their best 11, at any time last night, they didn't and they couldn't. The "didn't" I can't answer, the "couldn't", one of these best 11 was unable to play last night.

 

 

I'll say it one more time, FAIR RESULT as in CCH/HHS post #21, says it all. And the 6 sentences after FAIR RESULT in this post are all about what CCH could do to improve, NOTHING about an excuse for loosing to HHS.

 

Post#21:

Fair result. CCH continues to struggle in the attacking third, to much individualism. If they ever get to a full strength and go with their best starting 11 things may change. Stava really gives them a different type of attacking player but due to a lot of injuries, he has had to play most of their games in the back. CCH IMO has a good team when ALL of their players decide to show up and play, such as during the Trinity game. But so far this season to many of their players just don't get it done on a consistent basis. HHS was opportunistic last night and would agree, their staff has done a nice job so far.

 

Another point, there is a popular person on here, a Cooper supporter that questioned the center referee in two recent games. Cooper tie with St Henry and Cooper loss to Ryle. Turf Burn, why no accusing Cooper fan of making excuses?

Maybe because Cooper fan was NOT making excuses, but simply pointing on things he witnessed in these games...same things many many fans of many different schools do on here on a regular basis.

Can CCH supporters every take a lose without having an excuse for it???

 

Yes. Don't paint with so broad a brush. I haven't mentioned officiating in one thread this year.

I think the Ryle thread is the first time I've commented on officiating this year if I recall correctly. The officiating was terrible but not the reason CCH lost that game or the Highlands game and I'm not sure anyone has said that. CCH is struggling due to lack of quality in the final third and an overall lack of quality, possession style soccer that made them successful in the past. Those aren't excuses but merely viewpoints on their problems.

Yes. Don't paint with so broad a brush. I haven't mentioned officiating in one thread this year.

 

True, but I would reserve your right to do so, still several matches to go.... LOL.

I blame a lot of the poor refereeing the HS teams must suffer through on the lack of enough good (qualified) referees. And when I say qualified I don't mean passing some 100 question book test, and then being thrown to the wolves. Referees should be assigned based on experience and performance. I heard the local referees association once did peer and coaches evaluations to help grade their members, is this still being done?

I counted the number of games the local referee association had to cover yesterday. I counted 4 boys and 5 girls varsity games plus the Boys Freshman regional, which were done by a 2 person system up to the final. Compared to a typical Monday/Wednesday (girls) or Tuesday/Thursday (boys) this is not a lot of games to cover. In most things in life we are graded on performance and rewarded accordingly. It would be nice to see the referees being assigned by performance/grading. Some incentive to do a better job (like in most things in life) has a positive impact on performance.

 

I know over the 4 years that my son played for Boone it seemed like my criticisms yelled from the stands at decibels as loud as humanly possible had very little effect in helping the refs improve. I am still baffled by this and am open to suggestions.

 

The CCH/Highlands post are listed below. NO mention of ANY excuse and NO mention of a CCH BEST player NOT playing in the game. Post #24 is simply pointing out facts to correct Post #23.

 

CCH/Highlands post #23:

They played, what I'm guessing is their best XI for the first 20 minutes of the second half and that time frame ended 1-1 and Highlands had come out on the bad end of goal box scramble that CovCath was able to clear that had a better than decent chance to make it 2-1 at that point. Highlands plays with a ton of energy. CovCath, in my uneducated mind played with a lot of uncertainty. They weren't very decisive near the final 1/3rd. One thing is for sure, the Region is WIDE open this year.

 

CCH/Highlands post #24:

You guessed wrong, CCH did not play their best 11, at any time last night, they didn't and they couldn't. The "didn't" I can't answer, the "couldn't", one of these best 11 was unable to play last night.

 

 

I'll say it one more time, FAIR RESULT as in CCH/HHS post #21, says it all. And the 6 sentences after FAIR RESULT in this post are all about what CCH could do to improve, NOTHING about an excuse for loosing to HHS.

 

Post#21:

Fair result. CCH continues to struggle in the attacking third, to much individualism. If they ever get to a full strength and go with their best starting 11 things may change. Stava really gives them a different type of attacking player but due to a lot of injuries, he has had to play most of their games in the back. CCH IMO has a good team when ALL of their players decide to show up and play, such as during the Trinity game. But so far this season to many of their players just don't get it done on a consistent basis. HHS was opportunistic last night and would agree, their staff has done a nice job so far.

 

Another point, there is a popular person on here, a Cooper supporter that questioned the center referee in two recent games. Cooper tie with St Henry and Cooper loss to Ryle. Turf Burn, why no accusing Cooper fan of making excuses?

Maybe because Cooper fan was NOT making excuses, but simply pointing on things he witnessed in these games...same things many many fans of many different schools do on here on a regular basis.

 

I think it has more to do with the fact that said Cooper fan is willing to share concessions with fans from the other team. This is a trait more of my fellow BGP-ers should practice when I am present at the game you are watching.