December 21, 201510 yr First, I know of very few people who want to actually ban guns. The conversation always ends up there, but that is not what people like myself are pushing for. But the conversation about what measures can be implemented ALWAYS ends up as someone like me pushing for a ban, and thus, a violation of the 2nd Amendment rights of gun owners. Secondly, the article just really states the same positions of most on BGP. There was nothing new there for me, because it's been stated in countless threads about the subject on BGP over the years. I really don't have anything to add to that conversation because my position is well known (or should be if anyone can look past my decision to not own a gun, which somehow seems to make me anti-gun for all). It always seems to boil down to those who staunchly defend their 2nd Amendment rights calling those who choose not to as naive. There's always that "I'll be there to save those who don't have a gun". It's insulting and reeks of patronization. I know I am not asking for anyone to save me, nor expecting it. I believe that while all the points made in the article mirror the information imparted here on BGP, and are factual, none do anything to assuage my concerns. I agree that mass shootings will happen regardless of any bans. I also believe they will happen without bans. I agree it is not the gun, but the person wielding the gun. But regardless, it seems like the questions I have about why someone would want to own guns or be allowed to carry anywhere they choose come down to the core answer of "because we can" and "it's my right". OK. Good for you. Now, what are we going to do about the issues this right creates? Yes, I am uncomfortable with the thought of potentially having to constantly wonder who's got a gun in a public setting I may be a part of. Maybe to some of you, heck most of you, I don't value my life or safety. But it's actually the opposite. I choose a different way to live, because I am a different sort of person, with a different idea of living safely and different ways of self-protection. I choose ways that match my ideology. Again, none of this should be new to anyone who has participated in previous discussions about this subject with me. I don't know what anyone wants me to add. I'm not changing my position. I've read other articles stating the same as imparted in this one. I've been unwavering in my position, which unfortunately for some, translates into me wanting to somehow overturn your rights. If anyone wants to discuss or provide information about why changing the laws regarding ownership, that's a more relevant discussion. I'm all for the 2nd Amendment. I'm against unfettered, completely unregulated rights of any of our Constitutional rights, including this one. Rights do not come without responsibility. And when someone wants to discuss how we can make changes that improve responsible ownership, I'm in. But there has to be something offered besides the same old "it's the beginning of the end" as far as reasons why the discussion should be scrapped. I think multiple (unknown) "good guys/gals" having guns in a public setting is the lesser of two evils.
December 22, 201510 yr I think multiple (unknown) "good guys/gals" having guns in a public setting is the lesser of two evils. I hope we can still be friends if I disagree.
December 22, 201510 yr Author Self-Assured Obama Will Leave It on the Field for Gun Control - Bloomberg Politics Still, while the Obama administration responded to the San Bernardino attack with a renewed push on gun control, escalating fears of terrorism among the U.S. public have raised support for gun rights. For the first time in more than two decades, a majority of the country now opposes a ban on the sale of assault weapons, by 53 percent to 45 percent in an ABC News/Washington Post poll taken Dec. 10-13. The same poll suggests the public now wants ordinary Americans to have readier access to weapons. People in the survey, by 47 percent to 42 percent, preferred allowing Americans to carry guns legally over enacting stricter gun control laws. Americans may also be sending Obama a message with their wallets. The FBI reported that on Nov. 27, the shopping day known as Black Friday in the U.S., it processed 185,345 instant background checks for gun purchases, the most ever in a single day. President Obama going to leave it on the field...... I truly do not understand his thinking, and I am glad I don't.
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